Chin Ming

29 posts · started by Buddhafly on 03/30/02 at 22:56:55 · last post 04/04/02 at 21:47:19
Buddhafly03/30/02 at 22:56:55#1
Hello all.

Today we made our trek to the temple to fill out forms for the Chin Ming ceremony tomorrow.
I understand that this is the one time a year that the most attention and help is payed to our ancestors, and this is why this ceremony is so important.

I did find out a few more important things.  We fill out blessing forms for wishes for us and others.  Also we fill out forms for dead people to help them where they are.  An example would be any karmic debtors.  Our Lama gave me an example and said if someone I didn't like offered me a free trip to Calgary would I take it?; I thought about it and said yes!  
So it would be the same for our karmic debtors.  They would take what we have to offer them.

Many people bring donations of food, etc for this ceremony, if one doesn't, they can offer a donation of money to buy the food to be offered to their Ancestors, karmic debtors etc when they come.

There are also paper lotuses we can buy and give to them as well but I didn't quite get that one.  If someone knows please fill us in here.

Also I found out there is paper money that we can buy to help our ancestors in the netherworld to buy what they require.  Since our ancestors plaques are in the ancestor room, all I had to do is write down the temple address.  If one knows the plaque number that can be written down too.  
There is even paper clothing, and another type of money that was used a very long time ago in China that can be bought as well to offer.  I also spied the Great Compassion Mantra papers that can be offered to them as well.


I used to wonder how could my ancestors understand what all these things are for, especially if they do not understand Chinese, I found out it's muli-lingual, in the sense that all can understand these things at those levels.  Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Also I heard that it is not just my ancestors from this lifetime but from others as well...how this works I have no idea...someone please correct me if I am wrong and/or fill me in on this one too.

Thank you.

Brenda
mimosa03/31/02 at 10:09:18#2Re: Chin Ming
Brenda

I think that you are right. I could not sleep at all the first night I came back to CA, a crowd of ghost really came to bug me.. :wm4: I got up a couple of times to get rid of them, but to no avail

I finally recalled that it was the Chin Ming cermony, and my sister was going to Seattle. Thus, I woke up and gave her some money to burn some paper for me. After that, I could sleep...

boy!

Mimosa
arica03/31/02 at 21:04:08#3Re: Chin Ming
Bren, the paper lotuses are meant for the spirits to sit on them and be delivered. The papers used
to make these Lotuses have mantras written on them.
There are quite a few types .

There is our Root Guru's mantra, the Vijaya Buddha Mother mantra, the Deliverance Mantra etc........

Normally these paper lotuses are bought by people who
are not that diligent in their cultivation. So by providing
these paper lotuses, they hope that the Masters of the
ceremony can use these to help bring their ancestors out from the suffering hells, or their spiritual debtors to be reborn in a better realm.

Brenda, i see you are learning more each day.  :D


arica03/31/02 at 22:42:00#4Re: Paper Lotus
Anybody wants to learn how to fold one of these paper lotuses ?

I saw the photos on a dharma brother's website. I can
translate the captions for the instructions.

It is not difficult to make one.
Buddhafly03/31/02 at 23:55:03#5Re: Chin Ming
Cool!  I never knew I had to burn money before, or help pay for offerings either.  I thought just the donation of filling in the forms covered everything.

I have watched temple members, for years, make the paper lotuses, but I never thought to ask what they were for.  I would have never thought about the writing on them!

I am so used to seeing Chinese writing at the temple I do not pay attention to it anymore, because I know I will not understand it. For me it's like part of the decor blending into everything.

You both are very fortunate to understand, write and speak it fluently, and not only that other languages as well!!!!

Thank you for the explaination of the lotuses Arica.  I will have to remember that especially for other people that do not know.

Bren
mimosa04/01/02 at 00:50:53#6Re: Chin Ming
Brenda

Ah! how come you never ask all these years? I would ask if I were you.

I dont know if it is fortunte or not to know Chinese....sometimes I wonder about that...

Mimosa
Buddhafly04/01/02 at 14:40:06#7Re: Chin Ming
Usually everyone is so busy!  To get the answers I did this weekend I was referred to one person then another then another..this happened several times. Again because many of the Dharma sisters and brothers did not know how to explain it in English.
I finally became more wise recently; to register for ceremonies now I go the day before.  I noticed when driving up to the temple that many people were there.  Apparently they had the same idea as everything had to be explained to them as well.  Although they were Chinese.

For years I would just show up the day of the ceremony and everyone was too busy to answer much.
It has been only the last few years that we have even had a temple schedule in English.
mimosa04/01/02 at 14:56:13#8Re: Chin Ming
see, you are making a difference!

mimosa
Buddhafly04/01/02 at 14:59:43#9Re: Chin Ming
On one of the forms I filled out I listed my fathers name, as my dad had died 28 years ago.  

Last night I drempt of being in an airport, and many people, all of which I didn't know, kept attempting to distract me, and I began to worry I would miss my flight.  
My father appeared and I remember seeing very strange looking money in his hand, perhaps I had missed my flight, I do not remember.  I woke up with the very strongest knowing that somehow he accended two levels.  

I really contemplated the netherworld after recalling all this, and I think for Westerners that the whole idea is really very far out there.  Many of us grew up being taught about Heaven and that was it.  Paper money and the lot were not ever heard of.  

I feel it is very important to have the correct understanding of how things work and why they work in TBS.
Many Westerners have a very big curiosity and want and need to know why.  This is how we are taught at an early age.

For the next Chin Ming ceremony my dad will get a huge lotus, I just now need to know which one will help him the most..

Brenda
Lyciss04/01/02 at 16:12:22#10Re: Chin Ming
being a westerner and learning many years ago about burning paper money for the deceased seemed a bit unusual at first... i didnt understand the connection and why it required a certain process... im curious, besides burning paper money and lotuses is there any other ways that we can transfer merits to our ancestors, friends... and can we also transfer merits to people we dont know in the nether world?

      Thom
  om mani padme hum  
celestialmaiden04/01/02 at 16:22:01#11Re: Chin Ming
I just found out it was Ching Ming two days ago. I feel really bad because I did not fill out the form for the Homa. However I did attend the ceremony. How does this work? Is it effective if I did not fill out the registration but attended the ceremony. As well, what exactly is Ching Ming? Yesterday there was a Bardo Deliverance but I did not attend because I could not wake up. The day before at the Homa, I did meditation for over an hour. I felt very energized and peaceful but when I woke up, I felt like my chi had been sucked out of me. That's probably why I slept in. That night I forgot to do Armor protection. Well, these past two days a lot of bad things have been happening. I got into a huge fight with my mother (screaming match) and I had a flat tire yesterday for no reason. I also got a parking ticket. It really has been the worst of luck. Do you think I angered my ancestors and they came back to me to repay them? It is really okay if that is the case. Everything happens for a reason so it is really a good thing b/c I am getting rid of my karma. But do these events have anything to do with Ching Ming?

Om Mani Padme Hom
Maha7004/01/02 at 23:07:36#12Re: Chin Ming
If you do not register your ancestors for the Bardo they can't attend. It's the rules. Master Samantha was discussing this some years back. All the dead spirits in the netherworld, they all want to be part of the Bardo ceremony and they hope and pray that we will register them. As soon as they are registered, they line up quickly and goto the temple and take part in the ceremony.

They are funny sometimes. Before one Bardo ceremony Master Samantha was conducting, she overheard a conversation by several of the deceased spirits. "So how many times have you been registered?" "Oh, I've been registered over 20 times." "Wow, I have only been registered twice!" It is kind of amusing to think of deceased spirits bragging over how many times they have been registered.

I wish I knew how to fold paper lotuses. The ppl at the Purple Lotus Society, they all know. They buy all the papers and then fold up dozens and dozens and dozens (I'm talking boxes full!) of paper lotuses, bring them to the temple where they are burned in the Homa or used for offerings. Supposedly there are a lot of merits in these offerings and the cost? Practically nothing. They charge $5 for one lotus but if you make it yourself it probably costs .25 cents (pay for paper).

It is not that easy to fold paper lotuses. I have tried to fold on several occasions, and while it is easy to teach someone how to do it, mastering it is an entirely different thing. The ppl at the Purple Lotus Society have been making paper lotuses for so long, they are so beautiful. Maybe I'll take a picture so you can all see. You have to fold it just right so you don't wrinkle the paper in places where it is not supposed to be wrinkled. You have to know where to crease the paper hard, and where not to crease it. And you need good skills (hand eye coordination).

Chin Ming is new to me despite the fact that I'm Chinese. I never even heard of it and I'm 31 yrs old. On Sunday we went to the cemetery and brought some flowers for my Grandfather and Grandmother. Lots of ppl were burning incense, paper money, and setting off firecrackers. The incense was so thick, that as we were driving up the street we could see a huge cloud of smoke surrounding the whole area. It was a very busy day at the cemetery.

To Brenda: You don't have to burn paper money. The burning of paper money is like a mini-Homa (Fire) ceremony. All I did was register my ancestors for Chin Ming. Sometimes it is not practical (or even possible to burn paper money - no facilities). However, after reading that article, I felt like getting up and burning some paper money for my ancestors.

Maha
Buddhafly04/02/02 at 01:01:50#13Re: Chin Ming
Lyciss.
I know we can transfer the merits of our practices to our relatives and friends.  I do not know if it is possible to transfer those to dead people.

I have registered people I do not know that have died, those I have heard about in accidents and disasters etc in bardo ceremonies.

Perhaps someone else knows more answers here.

Celestialmaiden.
Regarding what is Chin Ming please see my first post.

I do get dreams before any bardo ceremony, as do a lot of people.  It could be a way of our ancestors to remind us not to forget them, I don't know.. *Shrugs Shoulders*

I do know that, even though I did the registration and everything I said, I had a few very tense days since then. I had a few opportunities to create bad karma, and nearly fell into it but was able to catch it in time.  Why this happens I have no idea.  Perhaps others may know.

Brenda
Lyciss04/02/02 at 01:30:29#14Re: Chin Ming
im not at ease now...
   if its really like this... my ancestors desire such offerings for bregging rights... (why arnt they practicing non-attachment?) and if i dont help them by making offerings are they really going to be upset with me and cause me problems? (selfish ancestors) although i could call myself selfish for not getting involved enough to make offerings to them... wow if its really like this, i have many things to change and get involved with... im always worried about being depended on for things... and now i feel like they are depending on me to do this... i only hope my ancestors are some how practicing non-attachment otherwise im doomed

     Thom
om mani padme hum
Buddhafly04/02/02 at 02:41:51#15Re: Chin Ming
Lyciss.
I have no idea how it works in the netherworld, but I do know in this world, my own living relatives brag, I could say a few more things regarding them but I will only smile and nod, hey I am far from being perfect too!   ;)

When I think of my father arriving in my dream, I think wow!
Only my dad would do that.  28 years later and he is helping me!   Perhaps 28 years in netherworld time is different than earth time.  I hope he isn't suffering.

No wonder people talk so much in Buddhism that it is so very important to be human and cultivate as much as possible when we are alive.
arica04/02/02 at 05:42:36#16Re: Chin Ming
To Maha , i have two sets of pictures with me...one set on how to fold a lotus with only a paper, the other set of photos
how to make a 16 paper lotus.

I am planning to translate the captions on how to fold the lotuses and post them here
when the PTT site can upload photos later.

I can fold the 16, 49 paper lotuses and someone has also taught me the style of PLS. PLS's paper lotus is indeed
different from the other paper lotuses.

Brenda, in the sutra of "Kitisargarbhava Bodhisattva ",
it is mentioned that when one chant, pray or do charities
to dedicate them to the dead, the living person will get
7 % of the merits, while the dead 3 %.
Lyciss04/02/02 at 13:10:59#17Re: Chin Ming
hmm...
  it seems to me there is possibly a hierarchy in effect in the netherworld... perhaps money can buy them more comfort, freedom or opportunity... just like here... since the buddha dharma resides in the six realms its truths are the same for each... im taken back to one of the first stories i ever read from Grand Master... id like to think that merit accumilation is far better than wealth in the netherworld... i hope im right!!

  to show what i mean im posting that story here... enjoy

The Lake God
By Grand Master Sheng-yen Lu
Translated by Janny Chow (from pp. 68-84 of the Grand Master's 129th book, Walking into the Most Hidden Yin and Yang Zone, published in August 1998)

Occasionally I take walks to Lake Sammamish.

There, at the edge of the water, I often see water ducks and blooming lotuses. I love walking along the floating pier. I can look to the bottom of the lake and view all those fishes swimming right above the fine sands.

When True Buddha School students come to pay homage at the Rey Tseng Temple (the Ling Shen Ching Tze), many of them also make time to visit Lake Sammamish.

One time, while looking at the fine sands at the bottom of the lake and at the carefree fishes swimming there, I started counting: one, two.... With tails swishing, the fishes were nibbling on the water grasses, causing them to undulate from side to side.

Suddenly, a moving shadow under the water caught my eye. At first, there was just the appearance of hair and beard; then, after a short while, a face with eyes, ears, nose, and mouth emerged. The person's eyes looked deadly shut. The sight startled me greatly.

It was not a floating corpse. Except for the visible facial features, the face was actually transparent, and I could still see two or three fishes swimming underneath it. Submerged under water, this transparent face was leisurely gliding along.

At the same time as the face appeared, I also heard the sound of jazz music playing and smelled the fragrance of orchids.

I noted it mentally although I could not understand it. If someone else had seen such a face in the water, he would have undoubtedly started screaming or yelling. But I did not, I was used to such things. I stood up. I was sure it was not my reflection in the water, as I did not have any hair or beard.

Quietly I started walking back towards the direction of the Ling Shen Ching Tze Temple. It was at that moment when I became aware of something moving next to me, right at the level of my cheek. I could hear the stepping sounds on grass and sand.

He spoke to me, "You are a god, and I am also a god."

"I am not a god," I replied.

"But you have the signs of a god."

Without answering him, I asked him instead, "Why did you show your face in the water?"

"Because I felt that you are Master Lu from the Ling Shen Ching Tze Temple."

"What do you want from me?"

"I just want to ask you for a glass of wine."

I responded with a nod.

If someone happened to be in the vicinity while I was conversing with "the man in the lake," they would only have witnessed me talking and nodding to myself and nothing else.

"Are you a lake ghost?" I asked him.

"Master Lu of the Ling Shen Ching Tze Temple, you indeed live up to your reputation. You saw right away that I am a ghost and not a lake god."


I laughed and said, "Among the divine lights of the devas in this world, those of the water devas are the most beautiful and colorful. Water devas also have their own attendants, and when they do appear, people who are able to, see rainbow colors on the lake. They do not wear beards like the one you have. Besides, I have met the lake god of Sammamish, and his name is Shariff. Who are you and what is your name?"


"My name is David. I got drunk, fell into the lake and drowned."


"Ha! So you are a drunken ghost?"


"Do not laugh at me, Master Lu."


With a stern countenance, I asked him, "What is it like for you in the lake?"


He replied, "This world is just too unfair! I heard that Shariff had also fallen into the lake after getting drunk. But, after meeting the Dragon King who greatly admired his talents, Shariff became the lake god. I also got drunk and drowned, but no one has paid any attention to me, and now I am a lake ghost. What a big difference there is between his and my luck!"


"The circumstances are different," I explained, "Shariff gave up drinking and started cultivation, but you have not!"


"You can't blame me, Master Lu. As soon as I start drinking, I feel like I am in heaven."


Well, I had no reply to that.




After this encounter, I often took with me a small bottle of wine on my walks to the lake. At the edge of the lake, I would sprinkle the wine onto the sandy beach.


"Have some wine, David," I would call out.


The drunken ghost would then appear.


The lakeside wine sprinkling occurred every few days. They were solitary trips, marked by the greeting, "David, here I am. Have some wine."


These frequent short trips to the lake became a cause of concern for some people. They found it weird that I was often nowhere to be found in the temple compound.


Speculations abound. "The Grand Master often disappears for no reason at all." "Grand Master Lu is hiding some secret." "But the Grand Master is an adept in Tantric cultivation ..." "Does Grand Master Lu have a secret date?"


To my students, I only smiled and said, "I just love to see the lake!"


Once I described the lake: the lake, so beautiful, shimmering with a turquoise glow; the lake, so beautiful, like an honorable sage; the lake, so beautiful and innocent and mysterious, like a child.


Once I wrote a poem in praise of Lake Sammamish:


Here I join my palms,

Drift no more, dear spirit;

All is forgotten,

Including all Sorrows;

Evening at Lake Sammamish,

Showered with Holy Light, like Buddha;

A hymn naturally sacred and pure,

That can be seen without eyes.




One time, David and I were enjoying the cool under a pine tree. David asked me, "Have you become naturalized yet?"


"Yes, I am an American citizen now. How about you?"


"Ha ha! I am a citizen of the drowned," answered David.


"What is that?"


"Master Lu, you are a living Buddha and know the Buddhist view of the six realms of transmigration, but I suppose you do not know of the citizens of the drowned! All those who die of drowning belong to the domain of the citizens of the drowned. As far as I know, those who perished in fires are called citizens of the incinerated."


"Oh, I see." I was taken aback and asked again, "How many citizens of the drowned are there in Lake Sammamish?"


"One hundred twenty-five."


"Who is in charge of them?"


"The lake god."


"How can you get out of this domain?"


"To get out, I have to wait for my chance. It is the same as that of a company that needs fifty employees to do the work, and only allows one to leave if another worker is found. If no one comes in, no one leaves."


"Finding a replacement."


"That's right, finding a replacement."


I thought of the ancient Chinese legend of drowned ghosts looking for replacements. In a story I heard when I was small, a man was fetching water from a river and suddenly a hand rose out of the water, grabbed him and tried to drag him into the river. Fortunately, an old woman was walking by. When she saw what was happening, she started screaming, "Water ghost, water ghost!" It scared the water ghost away. That particular river was said to be frequently haunted by water ghosts, and many people had died in it. I loved swimming when I was a child, but fear had kept me from swimming there. Indeed, one drowning accident involved a group of children swimming there. They all became citizens of the drowned.


So, it is not just Chinese water ghosts that look for replacements; Western water ghosts do too.


"Are you going to make me your replacement?" I spoke half in jest.


"Ha ha! How can that be possible! You are a living Buddha. Your whole body is immersed in light and you have troops of Dharma Protectors around you. Without your permission, I would not have been able to come near you."


"How about that first time when you showed yourself?"


"I was in the water, my natural domain. It was your eyes that barged into my world."

Suddenly David stood up. "Master Lu, I should go now. My fellow citizens of the drowned are looking for me!"


In that instant, I saw a troop of men in plumage, riding horses, as they surfaced to stand on the river. David walked towards the surface of the water and disappeared.


**************************


One day, David said to me, "Master Lu, I am leav- ing Lake Sammamish. I am finally going to be released from the citizens of the drowned."


"This is good, a very good news."


Yet, after second thought, I asked him, "Have you found a replacement?"


"Yes, a junior high school student by the name of Reno is coming to play in the water. It will be tomorrow afternoon, and he will have the urge to go swimming. The spot that he will choose has an abundant grove of water grass which will entwine around his feet."


"Where will you be at that time?"


"I will be right by his side. My hands will be there amid the tangled water weeds, holding tightly onto his feet."


I became nervous, "What is going to happen to him?"


David broke into laughter, "Need you ask? His mouth will be open and he will try to break loose. His two eyes will look like those of a dead fish, while his whole body will convulse uncontrollably. Then everything will quiet down. He will be in a swooning state of consciousness and, when he comes back into awareness, he will find himself no longer in the human world, that everything has changed for him."




"What about his parents?"


"They will feel great grief. His school will hold a memorial service for him and many of his classmates will be crying. They will talk about his life..."


I became silent.


"Master Lu, what is the matter with you?"


I replied, "As Buddhists, there are things we do and do not do. One, we refrain from activities that benefit only ourselves and not others. Two, we engage in deeds that benefit both ourselves and other people. Three, we refrain from activities that benefit neither ourselves nor others. Four, we engage in deeds that benefit others, though not ourselves."


"What does all this mean?"


"Shakyamuni Buddha taught us that we should act as sunlight to thaw and liberate beings who are trapped by ice and snow. This is teaching us to give up our lives to help others. There are stories of the Buddha giving up his body to feed the tigers and slicing his flesh to feed the eagles. Buddhism teaches one to develop a compassion that is as vast as the sky, like wonderful clouds, roaring thunder, and quenching rains. Buddhism teaches one to engage in works of liberation."


David turned to me, "My holding onto his feet so he would not be able to breathe, is that an evil deed? Is it an evil thought?"


"How can pulling someone's feet and preventing that person from breathing be a good deed or a good thought?"


"Well ..." David could not say anything. Then he continued, "In this world, people are only concerned about their own rights and own preservation. Men, even countries, harbor animosities and intolerance for each other and enact all kinds of wickedness upon each other. There are rampages of violence in societies and everyone does whatever he or she likes, as if possessed. I don't have that much wisdom power in me. I am just acting in accordance with what fate has dealt my way. How can this be a wicked thought?"


I explained, "I feel that Buddhism is full of auspiciousness and wonders. Your encountering me indicates an affinity between us. But now, you are falling again into the valley of negative karmas. Gaining such a rebirth can be very dangerous as your action will bring you karmic retribution."


"Do you wish me to stay forever among the citizens of the drowned?"


"No."


"But then, how am I going to get out of here?"


"Well, ... I will try to think of something."


David walked pensively towards the lake and gradually disappeared from sight.








For several days, I did not visit Lake Sammamish.


About three months later, I went back to the lakeside. The surface of the lake had not changed. Its large stretch of mist-covered water quietly hugged the mountains, as if rinsing away the dust that had become stuck to the body and mind. Several ducks were still quacking away merrily, forever free from honor and shame of emotional afflictions.


A small dingy on the lake further magnified the largeness of the lake. To lie on the dingy bobbing up and down would be like experiencing the deva realm up in the clouds. A few anglers were still around, sitting and waiting quietly and patiently for a hoped for fish.


In the lake, luxuriant red and white lotuses were blooming, and reeds were swaying to the rhythm of winds. The blue sky above was expansive and clear, yet the tiniest ring of ripplet in this water could set the whole sky into motion.


Occasionally, wild geese were flying above and, once in a while, some would descend upon the lakeside. I was not just enjoying the sight of the fast moving clouds; the elegant forms of wild geese gliding down also delighted me. I was not just casually looking at everything. With the mind entering into stillness, one found all waves quiet; with the body in peace, one could hardly feel any breeze.


Here is a verse:


Anchoring the boat in emerald water

That is shrouded in mist

And filled with countless strategic thoughts,

I have a special love for

The white lotuses at the lake's edge;

They bloom and die

Unconventionally.


While I was looking, the sky started to drizzle. Then there was a slight burst of wind, and the lake became even hazier. Suddenly, colorful bright lights appeared in the mist above the lake, revealing four lovely female attendants whose beauty was ethereal and beyond this world.


In the center of this colorful brilliance, the lake god appeared. He had a handsome and distinguished-looking face. His hair and beard were short and stylish, and he wore elegant attire, with long sleeves that fluttered in the wind.


As he came close to me, his eyes looked familiar.


"David?" I asked in surprise.


"It is me, Master Lu."


"What has happened? You are still here?"


"Yes."


"And who are you now?"


"I am the lake god now. I am a god just as you are."


David, the lake god, said to me, "That day, Reno did come to the lake to swim, and I was right there waiting for him. When his feet got entangled by the water grass, I reached out my hands."


"Oh, you grabbed his feet," I found my voice raising.


"No, I untied the water grass that was wrapped around his feet."


I gasped.


David the lake god continued, "Letting my replacement go also meant that I did not get to be reborn. All the water ghosts of the citizens of the drowned had known of my impending rebirth and, when I missed the chance, they all felt sorry for me. I didn't feel bad myself, I was actually happy for doing something right. Master Lu, you are right, one should not do anything that benefits oneself but hurts others."


"And ever since then, a light has appeared inside my heart," said David the lake god.


"A light?"


"A light of virtues. After that incident, I went on to save three more people's lives. Their car plunged into the lake, and I opened the car door for them."


"Oh!" A boundless praise and admiration welled up in me.


After the original lake god moved up to a higher position, his post fell naturally onto my shoulders. I am now the chief administrator of this lake, and I have the power to call upon rains and ride upon winds and to render help to other beings."


"Wow, you are indeed a god now!"


"Master Lu, I am indebted to you for your teaching," David was very happy.


"Do you still drink?"


"Not any more," David said, "I am now the lake god, a good god. I take pride in being brave, upright, and moral. I want to take refuge in you and practice the Buddhadharma."


After taking refuge in the Guru and the Triple Gems and a commitment to uphold the five precepts, David the lake god formally started his practice of the True Buddha Tantric Dharma.
Buddhafly04/03/02 at 13:46:46#18Re: Chin Ming
Thank you Arica.

I look forward to making the lotuses and helping my friends and ancestors who have died.

What if we chant outside will the small animals, spirits, etc hear us?
Maha7004/03/02 at 22:04:12#19Re: Chin Ming
Arica, I would like to see how to fold the paper lotus. If you have pictures, those would be helpful too. When it comes to origami it is very difficult to learn without pictures.

Celestial Maiden wrote: "I did meditation for over an hour. I felt very energized and peaceful but when I woke up, I felt like my chi had been sucked out of me. Well, these past two days a lot of bad things have been happening. I got into a huge fight with my mother (screaming match) and I had a flat tire yesterday for no reason. I also got a parking ticket. It really has been the worst of luck."

Celestial Maiden: I used to be the same way. I used to duke it out with my Mom all the time. Now it's quiet around here. There is a great deal more respect. It's been tough. I've taken a lot of abuse, but my Mom listens to me now (at least more so than in the past).

The problems you sited above have absolutely nothing to do with luck. You don't have to fight with Mom. It sounds like you might be too aggressive. Try cutting back on your meat intake. Eating lots of meat makes you aggressive. I've cut down big time on my meat. Sometimes when I goto McDonald's I will take out the entire beef pattie! It has really helped me out.

Try reading the Sutra of the Deep Kindness of Parents. You'll think twice about saying anything bad about your Mom after reading. I used to complain sometimes about my Mom's cooked meals. My Mom spends so much time and effort cooking and cleaning for us. For a while I was saying "thank you mom" each and every time she made me a meal and made sure to try to help out with cleaning up afterward. I reflected on the sacrifices she has made and I try my best to be nice to her.

Maha
arica04/04/02 at 02:42:16#20Re: Chin Ming
Maha, do you want me to email those pictures to you first ?

I can't post it up here on this site till Phrase III. The photos are from a Taiwanese dharma Brother website.
Lyciss04/04/02 at 02:46:13#21Re: Chin Ming
Arica,
    if its not too late could you add me to that email if you are going to send those pics to Maha?  im really curious myself and would like to learn...

          Thankx
  om mani padme hum
arica04/04/02 at 05:18:15#22Re: Chin Ming
No problem, Lyciss, i will email them to you first.

The credit goes to the Taiwan Dharma Brother Woo
who post it on his website.

The pictures is taken by a Taiwan dharma sister who had
folded thousands of these paper lotuses for a recent
earthquake disaster in Taiwan.

The captions are in Chinese. I have yet to translate them.
Hope you can follow the pictures. They are very detailed.

Check your mailbox. ^_^
Steven04/04/02 at 08:55:01#23Re: Chin Ming
Arica, yes, if you don't mind, you can send it to me via email.

Maha
arica04/04/02 at 09:08:18#24Re: Chin Ming
No problem, my pleasure to help out in whatever way.  ;)

Please check your mailbox.

There will be two emails.

One for the set of pictures using only 1 piece of paper
and the other for the set using 16 pieces.

Photos taken from the website of Taiwan Dharma Brother
Woo.
Buddhafly04/04/02 at 13:37:21#25Re: Chin Ming
Me too please!!!!!!
Thank you.

Bren
celestialmaiden04/04/02 at 18:37:42#26Re: Chin Ming
Me Three please!!
arica04/04/02 at 20:22:53#27Re: Chin Ming
Ladies, 2 emails are being delivered.  ;)

Please check your pigeon hole.

Brenda, the 1 piece of paper for making a simple paper
lotus, this is often used by us to deliver the spirits of
little animals, fly, mosquitoes, ants.........goes with
the size of the paper lotus, you see.  ;D
arica04/04/02 at 20:30:10#28Re: Chin Ming
How do we use these paper lotuses ?

There are dharma sisters who have free time on hand and
they make many of these and bring to any TBS Bardo
Ceremonies for the deliverance purpose.

For home use, we make one and put on our altar and
visualise Root Guru blessing the paper lotus when we
chant the Root Guru's mantra. Some people will burn
the paper lotus straightaway after one round of chanting,
some will keep it for a week, a month or longer till
they feel that the paper lotus is totally empowered
before burning it.

If you get the paper with the mantra of Deliverance, you can chant this and visualise Amitabha Buddha.

If the paper is that of the Vijaya Buddha Mother
Mantra, you can chant that. Then visualise the empowerment
of the Vijaya Buddha Mother on the paper lotus.

There is the paper with our Root Guru's mantra printed it.

To play safe, we can simply visualise our Root Guru's
shining his empowerment lights on our paper lotuses
regardless of the mantra paper that we use to make
the paper lotuses. Or all the Buddhas/Bodhisattvas
shining their lights on the paper lotuses.

Hope the above helps.  :)
Buddhafly04/04/02 at 21:47:19#29Re: Chin Ming
Arica.
This helps a lot.

Thank you very much.

Brenda