Hi all :) !
I am a newbie in Budha, in fact I still believe in Jesus and attend Charismatic church, and able to 'speak in tongue', received dreams (some of them already happened), and have a depth teaching in Christinity.
Any one of you share the same experience with me ?
1. I want to share my experiences, especialy from spritual world and some mental-level enlighten !
2. Pls don't under-estimated my experiences, don't suspect it come from satan, as did by most people in Budha/Christian ! One of them are shut-off after seeing the result. >:(
3. I need a CROSS-RELIGION persons with have quiet depth in Charismatic church (who also has TRUE spiritual experience in Jesus, such as heal people, heal broken family, unveiled natural disaster, etc), AND ALSO START/ALREADY ACQUIRE A PURE 'sense' of master Lu teaching.
4. Finally, IF NO one share the same experience, I expect some body from True Budha school can talk on this forum. If there are messages might offensive, we'll move to email, and I expect more than one people to participate.
5. I have met one student of True Budha of Singapore, and he invites me to see one master from Us who will visit Malaysia around June/July 2002. From that meeting, I believe some budhas around him will report to True Budha school in US, so I write this message.
HELP ME !
Buddhafly05/28/02 at 08:50:53#2Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Hello.
My Local Master, Master Lian Zhi commented on Jesus one day
and said that "Jesus is actually a Bodisattva.
Jesus constant body is Jesus. In the Old Testament he was "Elijah" so his past life is Elijah. Now that he came back as again as Jesus, he turned back to the heavenly level, within the 33 heavenly levels he is teaching there
because he has a promised land for all those Christanity worlds. So in those Christanity worlds one can enter Nirvana or arise to the hevenly levels and he is there for them."
She is currently out of the country and will not be back until July but you can write to her with your questions at:
Chin Yin Buddhist Society
To: Master Lian Zhi
12688-148Ave
Edmonton, AB Canada
T5X 6C8
Lyciss05/28/02 at 12:39:14#3Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?vs, Brenda,
i have also heard that Green Tara is the transformation body of Jesus...
cant quite place where i got the information but im pretty sure it came from Grand Master's writings but dont have absolute faith in my accurcy on this one... i feel im being like 90% correct on this... so if someone can dig up where GM mentions it, that would be perfect!
if you study closely both Green Tara and Jesus youll see very many simularities, i cant point them out at the moment because it was quite some time ago that i even found out about them myself... if i find the article about all this ill post it here for all those now interested by this information...
and one last thing that i think is really interesting for all those christians who happen by this post... Grand Master talks of the "christian" god as the Jade Emperor... when i first read about this from my mode of thought pertaining to christianity changed dramaticly... it seem to put things into a better perspective than they ever had been before... i had a new found respect for it and it also made it become more personable... part of what GM talks about when he mentions the Jade Emperor also had a big part in this mental outlook...
om mani padme hum
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vs05/29/02 at 10:05:17#4Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Hi Budhhafly, excelence explaination !
Last few days, my mind start to 'open', able to accept a few teaching of Budha:
1. The reality that God of Jewish (where Christian originated)
ARE PLURAL but expressed in SINGLE. In Hebrew tongue
"Elohim" = God (plural in single), the reason behind Trinity
of Godhead !
I started to think that PROBABLY, only 3 gods are
introduced into Church, but in fact they are MAY BE
MORE than 3 ! The 3 gods may be the MOST POWERFULL !
This looks similar to Budha teaching of PLURAL gods.
2. Jesus is just an other Bodisattva !
In terms of incarnation into flesh/carnal, yes !
3. He turned back to the 33 heaven !
No futher explanation in bible, only turned in heaven !
vs06/02/02 at 13:39:09#5Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?It seems that no body has the same exp like me, still waiting ... I plan to tell my experience (at mental level) soon, how did I trusted Master Lu, even when I was a fanatic Christian.
Any way, 9 hours ago, one student from Singapore True Budha school called me to prepare to visit master who will come from US around 7-9 June 2002. He promise to arrange the meeting, but not guarantee to carry it out, a lot of people want to see Him too. I thank's him very much :), he still keep his name from me, probably due to spritual-war, I guess !
darrellmc08/31/02 at 21:13:52#6Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?I heard one time, and I agree, that a true person of religion...a true person of faith, of whatever tradition or denominaton, could go into any church, temple, mosque, ashram, cathedral, meditation center, what-have-you, and worship unashamedly and sincerely with his fellow human beings. So what if they are worshipping a piece of mud with a stick stuck in it? The mere presence of even one true person of religion...one true person of faith...will turn it into a holy place. Anyway, better to bow down to a piece of mud with a stick stuck in it than to bow down to your own ego, prejudices, and pride. At least a piece of mud with a stick stuck in it is substantial, and probably never did anyone any harm, which you can not say about your ego, prejudices and pride.
vs12/24/02 at 09:23:26#7Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?darrellmc, I read it and understand partly (my english is terrible, even hundreds of my books are English). Just stay in English speaking country for 2 years !
Buddhafly, I start to interest on Jade Emperor, as ussual,
analyst from monk is ussually weak*, due to unseen evidences ! No body can proves that what you saw in spirutal realm is TRUE evidence, almost all are VIRTUAL REALITY !
Unfortunately, info and evidence might not enough for me to start this LOW class paper on Jade Emperor !
Despite my words sound sooooooo negative, but in fact is the opposite !
Until now, I still hold to tell why I believe GM Lu, my experience is not enough with GM Lu !
Buddhafly12/25/02 at 15:09:29#8Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?[Buddhafly, I start to interest on Jade Emperor, as ussual,
analyst from monk is ussually weak*, due to unseen evidences ! No body can proves that what you saw in spirutal realm is TRUE evidence, almost all are VIRTUAL REALITY !]
vs.
In all the experiences I have had and continue to have one thing is consistant. Everything agree's with Grand Master Lu's teachings. I was never exposed to Buddhism until my experiences lead up to it. One important thing that lead me to seek a different path when I was still a Christian was my husbands words one morning. He said " There are too many good people out there that we know, if there is a god, he has to be compassionate enough to help everyone no matter what they beleive in." It really hit home.
In True Buddha School I was taught to treat everyone with eqanimity this made sense to me. Also in seeing all beings as sentient it felt right. Not to have hate for anyone but compassion.
Also the Buddha's words, " Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything
simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because
it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the
authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been
handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that
anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then
accept it and live up to it.
Buddha
No matter what others say about my experiences, I know what I see and hear. That is all that is really important.
In seeking an explaination that makes sense to me I found it in True Buddha School.
Never once did Jesus appear in my dreams to guide me or to prove himself when I needed proof. But Living Buddha Grand Master Lu did and still does as well as our Masters in all that they have accomplished in their practices to allow them to do this.
To me that doesn't make Jesus any less believable it only assures my path is the correct one for me.
Kuan Yin explained to me once about a ladder and that the ladder all leads to the same place.
When you feel a weakness in your solor plexis, this is the
spirits trying to get inside of you. Solor plexis-chi = life force.
If it is weak they can take over your body. This is important as we practice to Strenghten our Chi and do Armor Protection to stop them from coming near us especially during meditation and sleep. Anytime during the day when I start to get irritable I do Armor Protection again and it works.
At the very beginning when I started practicing and had many doubts I found the more that I practiced the more the doubts left and the more I understood.
The Buddha said "..then accept it and live up to it."
For me in doing so has lead me to a much better life and much more wisdom and understanding.
I hope this helps.
vs01/03/03 at 08:36:51#9Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Hi Buddhafly, I treasure your response ! :D
I hold my response on 'the evidence and virtual reality' !
The answer is an comprehensive views from human sense*, material and law* ! bla... bla... bla... bla... FINALLY I also come to those Buddha's word "Treat all with compassions/love !", 'nothing' better than it, it is most 'cost effective' (financial term) advice for most conditions !
Ignore my brain (not heart) response above, my real response is actually this below
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I doNOT understand "Solor plexis-chi = life force", but any way I TAKE ONE STEP FOWARD TO ACCEPT YOUR ADVICE on Strenghten our Chi and do Armor Protection ! Just few hours ago I visit Sangha, but don't know whom to turn for advice for taking refuge at Seatle DC, so just standing outside, tend to leave, but something hold me, until meet one member that able to speak teochew+english, after getting info and so on, finnaly got some 'release' in my spirit as sign of correctness of my move, it feels great and life feel so meanigfull ! It might be the Solor you mentioned above ?! or The thing missed in my life for last 1 year ?! Despite have NOT take refuge, I will ask help from ..... ? donot know ! I think those Budha are helping me from the air.... can't see, but can feel it and got results !
Your 'surprise' advice in Solor is HELPING for me ! Thank's *bow*
FYI, 2 times already, when I start to think to leave TBS, surprise come directly from spiritual beings !
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Buddhafly01/04/03 at 19:02:46#10Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?
vs.
It sounds like you are in the correct place. ;)
Solar plexus
1 : a nerve plexus in the abdomen that is situated behind the stomach and in front of the aorta and the crura of the diaphragm and contains several ganglia distributing nerve fibers to the viscera
2 : the pit of the stomach
Sorry my spelling was off. At times when one is sensitive to energy they may feel a weakness in this area when spirits
are around.
For me this is an indication that something is wrong and they are trying to attack me.
It happened to me a few times before taking refuge and has not happened since.
Since Master Lin Ho is my resident Master I know that she is able to see spirits and has been able to see them since she was a small child. It is definitly good that you had the opportunity to speak with her.
vs01/06/03 at 07:10:02#11Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?After reading Solar Plexus, I think I have NO such problem. Or, I did not able to feel it, don't know ! ;D
For me, the only problem now is WAITING the promise of Master Lin Ho on girl/love, I mean spirit behind Her, not Her human side ! FYI, since the deliverence on 8 Dec 2002, C-Spirit tried came to me 2 times exactly when I was about to approach a girl. It is soo frustating for me ! Becuase of this, I think to take refuge.
Since you mention about Master Lin Ho, I want to ask several difficult questions: how if spirit behind Master Lin Ho does NOT able to fullfilled the promise ? How long to wait ? or is there sign that the waiting is over ?
I expect NO response on this question due to it's difficulties !
Waiting for Master Lin Ho .... :'(
*bow*
vs
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Buddhafly01/10/03 at 00:17:06#12Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?
vs.
Please remember when one take refuge they immediatly have protection from the Vajra Protectors.
vs01/12/03 at 06:17:56#13Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Let me know when Master Lin Ho will visit to Singapore (don't take special effort to ask Her, just in case you know it)
FYI, Despite I still DOUBT about the ability of Budha to help, I am taking refuge, and see next !
She mentioned that my next move is to take refuge, I did not believed Her, but now, I have come to that point ... interesting *&$%#%^*(^$#( :P :P :P ; ;D
Thank's *bow*
vs
asura01/12/03 at 06:35:40#14Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?hey vs ;)
I too look forward to have you become a dharma brother soon!!
I reazlied perhaps you are still struggling the idea of Christian and Buddhism? (from what I've read anyways ;))
To me, the two had ties that were always and been unseperatable in their roots. Both religions were spawn and mold in the image of locals to save us mortals in times of dark.
You don't have to feel bad chosing either one. I've known friends who are still Christians (she even leads the worship team and still do! And she also study buddhism with other priests. Its not a sin, nor its as complicated as you think.)
Neither Christianity or Buddhism is greater than the other, everything are words, their ideas regarding heavens/nirvanas were really imagery of "attempting" to explain a place that people once belong to. Which in fact both were of the same universe, just different in names and descriptions predicted by the cultures/education at that point.
If you ask how can you be sure if this is the right thing to do... then we should question ourselves the reason of why we
should doubt something that was originally there to provide answers to clear "doubts"...that is the greatest irony don't you think?
Instead of asking more questions to answers that could never satisfy the mind's thirst for input, why not use the same effort to explore the answers by taking practical actions and participate in the matter itself? 8)
This is your spiritual journey, there is no right and wrong decisions, the only fault would be if you are standing in the same spot asking more questions to ease those doubts and fears that would never go away.
Everyone have doubts and fears to make a mistake, but... we forgot, these things don't bite. We ourselves do.
So free yourself vs! Be content with whatever decision you make and don't think too much.
Wisdom can only be granted to those who act out the great yoga. And yoga does not mean sitting our arses with legs cross meditiating.... yoga actually means the JOURNEY from mortals to Buddha Hood. I means WHATEVER you do now if followings the methods of Christianity+Buddhism is part of the great yoga.
Its only a matter of phrase, it is the doubts we must cleance, not any evil spirits. Afterall, there are no greater demons but our very self. Because only WE can stop ourselves from approaching something so precious and real.
(Spirits influence yes, but they don't control us. We are the ones to place the final judgement upon every decisions we make in life. We should never push our responsibilities to the unknown because the truth is that we are afraid to endure the outcome of our decisions. And unknown *meaning spirits* is the best scape goat cuz they don't talk back hehe)
So again, be content brother ;) And may the refuge wash away your doubts and light up the path before you!
Cheers to your new life!!
*downs a glass of wine*
Asura
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vs01/13/03 at 08:37:43#15Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Asura, thanks for monitoring me :)
Don't welcome me, I may withdraw the decision if Budha acts toooooo sloooooow ! Rememer, I stay with Jesus too long, and now want NOT to waste time for Budha !
FYI, I do NOT believe on any Budha unless gave strong evidence on their ability to alter my fate ! Simple !
For me, become a budha while in this life is totally stupid, sorry, caus it is almost Hoax (Permanent Vegetarian State) ... unless ... 8) (terms: 1, 2, 3, .... )
My calculator tell me: They are able, but X Factor is too much also, so final result is uncertainty !
Thank's, next time give better qualtiy and more scientific advices, not like this, too easy for me, even I don't understand it ;D
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Buddhafly01/13/03 at 18:18:49#16Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?
vs.
You make me smile.
I think of my husband who has amazing dreams,
which I have documented here, and he still shrugs
his shoulders. He knows what he see's in his dreams
and the wisdom he gets and even the incredible
things that happen to us, yet he is very passive
about it all.
I am sure if Grand Master Lu were here, Grand
Master Lu and him would have some very interesting discussions, for his comprehensension of things mundane
are far beyond mine.
Currently he is reading a nurological book about how practicing Buddhism effects one brain, why one
experiences what one does.
Me, I understand in Buddhist terminology, and
that is good enough. :)
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vs01/14/03 at 07:58:52#17Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Buddhafly :)
Small tips for you :)he... :)he... :)he.... please check it carefully, my data come from thousands of spiritual battles and ancient text older that Sidharta Gautama and Ancient Egypt ;D
1. when one come to Samadi state (where your active mind become void/stop-to-tick, and reach the peace/flying/'higher mind'), actually it is JUST SIMPLY an small anasthesi on one part of brain, say X (... please read 2 world class paper on 2001: New Scientis and Science ... if I recall correctly). Most of cultivators become very happy when come to X state, they think already reach 'higher state', yes ? BIG NO and tiny 'yes' ! In fact just a normal biology things, want not go deeper ! Info for your husband, read neurology papers supporting by MRI data and Clinical info starts from mid 2001 !
2. Some nuts people are pushing the X state too far and very pride (in fact is very stupid) when they come Permanent Vegetarian State (PVS), must be bath by diciples, must be fed by others, worse than disable people, but still live in biology form ! Fortunately GM Lu did NOT teach that, instead married, has children, ask you to see doctor on first place than monk, exercise, lost His tooth ... etc, a CORRECT and SOUND advice ! I read that Mimosa can stay in Samadi state, and relate it like a Hoax (bit similar to PVS) ;D That is just one example, but don't go to futher to PVS b'caus nobody will maintain the web site and Thor can't work ;) ;) ;D Want not go deeper !
FYI, I'm not a biologist nor neurologist, see .. how terrible my English !!!
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For Asura, Yoga ? please help me to research those yoga body-formations in relation to accelerate X point to reach 'higher mind' !
What is 'windows' ? I DARE NOT used that word after study quiet depth on intelligence 8) pls tell me what is 'wisdom'.
At least, the definition of what CONSTANT is ! Little help: if you able to grap 'the red line' behind the some reaction GM Lu when people lying to Him, u already get partially what windows is 8) I do NOT want to share more than this, find it for your self ! :-X
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I just share those limited info, do NOT mean to debat/argue !
Most important now is waiting for Master Lin Ho :)
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darrellmc01/14/03 at 16:08:33#18Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Wisdom is the ability to gain knowledge about anything and apply it to other, different, things.
PVS? You can accomplish the same thing by a lobotomy, drugs or a well placed shotgun blast.
But there is no awareness, whereas samahdi is TOTAL awareness,albeit with no subject or object.
vs01/15/03 at 07:22:27#19Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Once u define "ability", "gain", "knowledge", then we have to say "My wisdom is actually LIMITED from A1 to A2" !
So, just try to estimate our A1 and A2 then already know how 'good' we are, like 'limit' of Calculus ! I still dare not to use the word 'wisdom' :-[
Agree on PVS, list more for other can avoid the negative ones ... ;D
FYI, I knew that Samadhi at TBS is very positive !
Hey ... still waiting for Master Lin Ho !
Also, story from ones come from Charismatic church
darrellmc01/15/03 at 11:27:26#20Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Knowledge is an increasing, and a becoming more and more complex; the more you learn the more you realize how little you know, (that is how much is left to learn)..A1-A2-A2b-A2c, etc. Your outline gets larger and larger and more complex, yet will always be incomplete. That is because knowledge is at best only a partial description of how things are. Wisdom, on the other hand, is a reduction and a becoming less and less. Down to a few simple words, then down to one, then down to none. There's an old joke about the difference between a specialist and a generalist. A generalist learns less and less about more and more until he eventually knows nothing about everything. A specialist learns more and more about less and less until eventually he knows everything about nothing. A Buddhist just smiles and says "Same thing." :)
I agree that there really is not much need for the word "wisdom". To use it applied to someone else is meaningless; to use it applied to yourself is meaningless. Grand Master Lu once wrote to me that I have a "great Buddha wisdom". Meaningless. If he had told me that I was a "great Buddha fool", I would have taken it the same way. As a lesson and a blessing. So what do you call that? Whether you call it this or that or the other....Call it asparagus for all I care. ;)
I think about it like this..Is it better to have good dreams or to have bad dreams? I suppose it is better to have good dreams. It is better still to not be asleep.
One of the finest lessons I ever heard was when Master Samantha Chou told me, "Darrell! Wake up! You are asleep."
But the dreams are so pleasant! Even the unpleasant dreams are very interesting.
So, should I try to awaken?
How would I then know when I was awake? Maybe it would be just another dream....dreaming that I was awake.
Dreaming that I was asleep. All the same, really.
I know that it is a big old paradox.
Mostly a big old waste of time, as well. Maybe its like the old Zen saying, "When sleepy, I sleep. When hungry, I eat"
Or, "the bad thing about taking a nap is that then you no longer have the option of taking a nap."
So to find out if I am wise or not, maybe we should take a poll...then I would know, one way or the other, right?
Wrong.
I had rather amuse someone than enlighten them. Myself included. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
vs01/16/03 at 07:00:37#21Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?darrelmc, now we move to 'to act', put the undestanting/'wisdom' into real test on field !
Now, what is your comment on this: "VS is insisting Budhas to help, esc when Master LH unveiled the spiritual data that I will get what I want ?" in shortcut: "My Interest is everything !" ;D
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I expect that Budhas saw this as an opportunity to show Their blessing and compassion to me *bow*
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darrellmc01/17/03 at 11:20:50#22Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?Ahhh. Now I am beginning to see why this is in the Christian/Charismatic heading. Like the Old Testament centered prayer..."Lord, smite my enemies, and make sure I and mine have what we want and don't get what we don't want." :) About a two year old level of maturity. "I, Me, Mine, I, Me, Mine, I, Me, Mine"
The only problem with this is that a person would have to be truly onmiscient to even KNOW what they want and what they don't want, as opposed to what they THINK they want or THINK they don't want at any particular time. Who can say what is connected to what and what pathways and choices one pathway or choice leads us on to? In my own experience and that of many I know, more often than not, what we want turns out to be something negative in the long run or what we try to avoid turns into something positive. There is a country song with the line "Sometimes I thank God for unanswered prayers." A lot to that.
You say "My interest is everything." I have no problem with that. After all, whose perspective can you use but your own?
Only what a great amount of (that word again) wisdom it takes to even know where your interest truly lies!
Buddhas won't help you. They have no agenda, nothing to do, no axes to grind. Bodhisattvas can help you, but only in line with their vows. Dharma protectors....you have to watch these guys carefully. More precisely, you have to watch yourself carefully. Be careful what you think and what you wish for, even casually. I think that if you ask around, you will find a lot of people who have experiences that bear this out.
Not too long ago, I got a speeding ticket which I felt was totally unwarranted. Went to court with much bitter feeling about it. Lost my case;the judge didn't buy my story; I paid the fine. Case closed. I picked up the paper yesterday and saw that the judge has been charged (wrongly, he says) with conflict of interest violations,and might be losing his job, and the courthouse caught fire. Overreaction, if you ask me.
Could be coincidence. Could be.
I bought a mobile home three months ago, with no credit..about a $25,000 purchase, and I have a bankruptcy still on my record. There was a long string of mistakes on the part of the sellers. I shouldn't have been approved, but they messed up. They had gone ahead and delivered and installed the home, dug the septic, plumbed it, wired it,etc. in short, they had about $8,000 of their own money already invested, when the loan was disapproved. Because of all the "bad" things, and things going wrong, the incentive was now on them to either figure a way of selling me the home or losing their $8,000. Guess what, they bent the rules and financed me! 8) I was supposed to get a used furnace/air conditioner, but due to some unforeseen problem on their part, I ended up with a new $4300 system at the same cost. Twenty years ago, when this place was an empty field, I said that one day I would be looking out from my warm house through the window to watch the birds at the feeder. Today there is three inches of snow on the ground and I did just that. I can not say for sure that outside sources are at work in all this. But this much I know for sure. If a person THINKS he has a benevolent and powerful ally sitting on his shoulder and really believes so, then he is going to be a force to reckon with, simply because of his own projection of self-confidence and good will. Everyone he meets, instead of being careful of him, is eager to help him. Why? Because he is just as eager to help them. He has no enemies to smite. He wants what he gets, and accepts it gratefully.
On a deeper level, this world is already a perfect place. To one who says that it is not, I ask "Compared to what?"
Compared to some imaginary world that you created in your head? If that is the case, then just create one that matches this one. Or, merely pay attention to what is right in front of you, instead of paying attention to what you are thinking about it, what you are thinking about what you are thinking and so on. (That is, get past your illusions) One cannot remove any one thing from everything. The whole with any part missing is not whole. Even if somehow you could remove any thing from it's place, there would be no place to put it except exactly back where you got it. There is only the Tao and it is indivisible.
We are all so lucky... so blessed. Just to breathe in and out one time as a human being is so lucky, considering all alternatives.
"Oh, Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
My friends all drive Porsches. I must make amends."
...Big Brother and the Holding Company with Janis Joplin
Probably before your time.
vs01/20/03 at 06:46:56#23Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?he ...3x i'll reply next few days ... ;D
Now, 23 Jan 2003
I read few times to understand it !
For short, it is EXACTLY like Christian popular + unsolve + shopisticate + no-prove 'advice' is "Probaly God has intension on it", so see these things below
1. I hitted by a Car --> Probaly God has intension on it
2. I just get half millions --> Probaly God has intension on it
3. Why suddenly I got 3 girls --> Probaly God has intension on it
4. I got hospitallized --> Probaly God has intension on it
5. I got to Hell --> Probaly God has intension on it (it is obvious you will not that stupid to agree this )
In short, ALMOST every things can be adviced by it, as long as it does not look evil ! So, this advice becomes soooooooooo...ooooooooooo popular amongs Christian conselors !
When I read GM Lu books, I surprised that GM confest his failures and unsolved things, this make me think that GM Lu is a true teacher ! Not like Jehovah, always FAILED to rule His people, in short: Do you want to be Palestine as a victim for Jevoha's global planning, while Isrealy has good life now ? Or probably it is Karma ? my shopisticated advice is "Probaly God has intension on it" ! Mimosa, please delete above line if it is sensitive !
I knew similars bitter examples, but unfortunately, it is NOT a full truth, just PARTIAL !
Some people are fail/dammed because of: (1) BAD GENETIC, (2) unmatch psychology, (3) social/politic/environment,
(4) CURSE from evil spirits, ...... and so on .... , finally a (Z) bad-luck !
Your advice falls into (3) and (Z) bad-luck !
In short, I AGREED with your experience, and take the truth from it, but I go one step futher !
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This is my opinion, and please check it with 3rd parties:
1. Human mind is blinded by repeated and bitter/nice experiences, that is the default behavior of evolutionary based mind !
2. This is also the cause of fanatic religious thinking of self esteem !
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First-words when I met Master Lin Ho was told Her that there are active spirits to prevent me to get a girl, I prayed to Jesus, but no help, so came to seek GM Lu ! And thanks ALOT to Her that She manage to help me, even not completed yet ... still waiting :)
My problem falls under (4) ! I have to make it clear, that I have a REASONABLE expectation, If I ever lead 2 companies, so it is normal to get 1 japan car + 1 Volvo, if I am an expert on database, so get Oracle/Microsoft Certificate, if I am cute and nice and high IQ, so get best girls at high-scholl and university, it might be tooo high for rest. I meant that God know our individual talent and power, we can't generalised everyone, unless Socialist System, no wonder Soviet Union and East Europe broke after 70 years, now North Korea and Cuba ... please check your timer ;D Your OT examples miss target.
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I AGREED w/ you that it is lucky to breath in/out, but it is NOT wise and WRONG to hide talent and power, meanwhile Budha is willing to help you to dig it out, unless it is an ENOUGH for you from Heaven !
Personally, I prefer to give my flesh to bird, instead of let melt to soil when I am death !
I just learn from you that Budha is not same with Bodhisattvas :)
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Your response is a GREAT HELP for me, even I don't mention which part ! Thank's for your TIME and EFFORT to help me *bow*
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asura01/20/03 at 11:10:15#24Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?>For Asura, Yoga ? please help me to research those yoga body-formations in relation to accelerate X point to reach 'higher mind' !
*chuckles* You don't need me to research yoga body formations. If what you seek is knowledge, the internet is full of it ;) Gaining all sorts of knowledge won't help enlightnment, only faith and devotion will take you there. There is no other way.
The yoga I mentioned to you, as I have stressed...is not about how you sit, what you know, is about how you do it - both body and the mind. The word Yoga really means the process from mortality to nirvana. Not how we cross our legs ;)
There is no such thing as one step that lets you accelerate in real life, the buddha had once said it, so did GM.
If you don't first submit yourself to one set of principle, how can your heart be at ease? (you'll always struggle in between possibilities as time runs out)
If you heart is not at ease, how can you settle the mind in peace?
If you are constantly doubting being in the TBS school maybe a bad choice, how would the teachings benifit you?
If you constantly seek to find doubts out of every answers given to you. Then, to what end will this extend to?
You still have doubts till this day, perhaps because doubts spawn our of your insecurity and that what you really really want in the deep end of your mind you wish not to believe in a principle that would grant you peace, but a greater power that will full fill your needs and desire. And it order to make you believe, "it" must show you this power...then neither Christianity nor Buddhism can grant you that.
Because your doubts and crave for "better" will continue to haunt and cloud your judgements. You'll never be happy :'(
If you always ponder which practice is more powerful, how would the Gods reach you?
(And ask yourself why should they reach you? They don't owe the ignorance of humanity any answers. If ithey always grant you visions in your head, then they are full filling the desires of men, not feeding them wisdom. And that is not the way of Buddhism. The dieties DO NOT owe any of us any favours just because we practice, but they will give them their all to make your life improve if you truely believe in them. The balance is in the middle. That is a fact applies to both me and you ;) )
Having faith to whatever you seek to believe is a long journal, it doesn't end wheither you are a Christian or Buddhist. But if you settle on neither, then you'll always be asking the same questions from before and never progress. You don't gain sin from being in either. They are both part of a great yoga.
The only difference is, Buddhism provide PRACTICAL ways to ACHIEVE the goal and Christianity only provide the theory (Christianity don't have the methods in Buddhism because back then people cannot accept the truth, therefore God made up the theory of heaven and hell to stop the ppl from commiting more crimes not because God is lesser).
p.s. The world of spirit is not a business exchange, either religion Christian or Buddhism is not greater than the other in strength. Everyone waits for the Gods to give them something to see/feel/touch everytime we are in doubt if God was there.
If you are a father, and your kid always need you to buy him presents in order to know that you still love him... do you think this is absurd and silly? Would you keep up this method? Obviously you'll ignore the kid, and hope that your child will understand it one day. So would the Gods. They are not our servants and owe us nothing. You can keep waiting, but nothing will come, and death will still be waiting on the other end. You'll end up asking the same questions again, next life...that is if we are able to be human again.
Nirvana is not something waiting to be given to us, but its something we have to achieve and earn it by ourselves.
Please, settle down and think about what you are really looking for then toward that direction, give it all your heart -- faith. Regardless its Christianity or Buddhism, it beats doubting everything and give the mind more excuses to waste the time that is given to you for the better. :-*
Ciao brother! :o
Asura
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vs01/23/03 at 08:24:08#25Re: Any one come from Christian/Charismatic ?I undestand and welcome your advices, too easy for me, however I am a result-oriented-person, and those hanging problems are:
1. Waiting for Master LH for empowerment, than
2. Waiting for realization of the promise She told me, I meant the spirit behind Her !
Once those done, no doubt 'any more' :)
Don't take it litterally, I am shoutting into your ears: "I undestood it and put into practise at least 10 years, but the lousy Jesus did not help" If you think Jesus same like Budha, so implicitly I say 'the same thing' to Budha ;D
FYI, I got one LIFE WITNESS from Myanmar about seeing Shidartha is HELL ! If Him in Hell, how about you ? ::) this monk already death and his body was about to put into fire, but Jesus RAISED Him from death, now alot of monks converted to christian because of him.
So based on the history, Christian is higher than Budhism, while most people (inclu GM Lu) believe that Budhism with Tantra??? and so and so is MUCH HIGHER than Jesus,
why ? some people in Budishm reached Level 42 (a pop music group) higher than Jesus which only 33th (based on Buddahfly info), so which one is correct if those monks must be converted into Christian in a budish country ? My shopisticated advice is "Probably God/Budha/UnKnown has intension on it"
Because no body can explain, so meanwhile my eyes is looking to Budha for help ! and later-on if somehow the Highest One tell me "Go to Budhism" so I follow !
FYI, your opinion that Christian and Budha is same is actually VIRTUAL-TRUTH, I rather avoid such opion in discussion !
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Thank's for your info on Yoga, it is better for me to be empowered and talk about it later ! *bow*