Can you share some of the wisdom u have learned?

8 posts · started by raychin on 08/29/02 at 22:16:27 · last post 09/16/02 at 02:16:54
raychin08/29/02 at 22:16:27#1
hi.
can you share some insights you have gained into Buddhism?
i told you guys that i still have a problem of faith.  i don't think a show of dharma power  would convince me totally, but insights into truth that would.
i had an insight the other day when i was doing the Vajrasattva Practice.  when i was chanting, i suddenly realized that we were all connected. dependent on each other.  we were all one.  i didn't have a self.  that we all are a part of each other.  but that insight only came during that particular practice.  i felt great and at peace.  first time i ever felt at peace w/ myself.  after that i was the same old doubting self.  i just hate doubting, because i am afraid that i would be offending Buddhas.  Tsongkapa said that u would be in trouble if u lack faith.  i just feel  that i always have to fight myself in order to maintain some sort of faith.  i question the Buddhas alot of times.  Faith is good because it keeps me practicing and from straying off the right path.  thanks.
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Lyciss08/30/02 at 01:17:05#2Re: Can you share some of the wisdom u have learne
Raychin,
     that is a very great response to feel after Vajrasattva practice!
   
     to doubt is ok, however its what we do when we doubt that is important to consider... you can act in two ways... you can like your doubt and create problems by filling other peoples thoughts with your doubts... this is bad karma... or you can try to remove your doubts by finding wisdom... this is good karma and even better when you can share the wisdom to help relieve the doubts of others...

      you have a great outlook, you are worried about offending the Buddhas with your doubts... this is one of the very few things that you should worry about... because it will keep your thoughts guarded agaisnt creating negative karma for yourself and others...

       it is common to struggle to gain and have faith... and the feeling you have when you say you have to fight yourself in order to maintain it... is due to our karma... even the buddha had to struggle... and struggling is good...

       to become strong, a weight lifter must work out every day and struggle with the heavy weights... when there is no struggle, there is no gain in strength... if it were easy then we all would be body builders... lol

       the same is true for faith, if it were easy the world would be very different then how it is currently... do i wish it were easy, yea but then again it might be taken for granted if it was and that could be far worse and return everything back to the mundane... to struggle is natural... a mountain climber doesnt just float to the top of the mountain... he has to pick, pull and crawl up to the top, huffing and puffing all the way up... cultivation is the training for the mind so it will be in great shape to make the journey to the top...

        om mani padme hum
darrellmc08/31/02 at 20:01:33#3Re: Can you share some of the wisdom u have learne
I will start by giving you a secret I learned when I was in school and had to write a research paper. I would sit down and write the paper, then go out and find a bunch of  dead people who had written books, who also happened to agree with me. Then I quoted them as my sources.  ;) I always got A's.
I was just reading a book today, called The Heart Sutra by Osho. As I was reading through it, one thing that stuck was his definition of the difference between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge can be taught; wisdom has to be earned. He said "Knowledge is that which comes through the mind, knowledge is that which comes from the outside. Knowledge is never original! It can't be original; by its very nature it is borrowed. Wisdom is your original vision; it does not come from the outside, it grows in you."
So where does wisdom come from? Where does faith come from? How to develop them? Why worry about all that? You already have everything you need. Inside you is your true self, your 'true colors, beautiful like a rainbow'. You are Buddha, Buddha is you. Every enlightened being there ever was said that. Grandmaster Lu said that. This is not me saying that. (Yes, it is.) There is a story about a man who was held prisoner for many years, and he used to look out the one tiny window of his cell all day and all night, seeing what little he could see of the world, and longing to get free. What he didn't know is that the door behind him had been open all the time, only he never turned around to see. All the great teachers I have ever been lucky enough to listen to, alll say much the same thing, in different ways. Quit whining and turn around! Turn your head around. Get your head out of your own ***. I am not trying to be hateful  or mean here. If you take it as such, you misunderstand. If anyone feels offended by what I say, then I say 'All the more reason to turn your head around!" You can't offend a Buddha. It is impossible!
lian hua dance09/01/02 at 14:30:35#4Re: Can you share some of the wisdom u have learne
:)
My two cents (maybe Singapore cents) on belief, doubt and faith –

I think that there is room for doubt in Buddhism, but you can doubt your own doubt as well.

This is how I put things – if there is something Grand Master says that doesn’t seem to ring true to me, this does not mean I have to lose faith in Grand Master.

There is a progression – GM says/writes something, someone translates it, and as a last step, I make a picture of it in my mind, my own idea of what GM said/meant.  If this thing that I created (my idea of GM’s thought) doesn’t make sense, is that my problem or GM’s problem?  Many things having to do with experiences I haven’t had will be things that I just am not capable of making a meaningful conception of.  So I can say – I don’t understand this yet.  I may have doubt in the idea I created, but this does not mean my idea was a correct idea that I should have faith in.  My idea was the best I could come up with, and I can afford to wait to have a better context of experiences and knowledge in which to come up with a better conception.

For your case, I am not sure what lack of faith you are most concerned with.  You appear to have enough faith to practice cultivation and have a good response.  At this point, you are not required to have a blind belief that cultivation can lead to some insight – this is something you know from your own experience now.  Things that were words before have meaning now.

Have doubts, but doubt at least equally your own understanding as the external concept you think you are doubting.  Otherwise, it seems presumptuous, to assume you understand perfectly, and understand that someone else is wrong.

lian hua dance
raychin09/03/02 at 18:01:48#5Re: Can you share some of the wisdom u have learne
thanks, guys.
celestialmaiden09/04/02 at 16:05:13#6Re: Can you share some of the wisdom u have learne
I also have problems with doubt. For the past 5 years since I have taken refuge I have put all my faith into Grandmaster. I would tell him all my troubles, all my worries and rely on him alone to relieve my suffering. I have been trying to build a strong Guru-disciple relationship with him because I understand the importance of having absolute faith in one's Guru.

Now five years later, life is usual until I attend the Golden Mother's birthday puja. The presiding master was Master Samantha and she had a conversation with the Golden Mother. The Golden Mother gave us a present consisting of five words: "Don't Rely on others anymore" ( in Chinese). Then Master Samantha explained that she did not understand how these 5 words could constitute a present. She gave it much thought and explained that we should rely on our own cultivation to get rid of our own suffering just as we have to feel our own pain, and feed our own hunger. I gave this some thought but I still did not understand this in actual practice.

The days following were lonely. All my friends had deserted me. My best friend whom always keeps me company was suddenly busy. My other friends were also occupied. The person who I told all my problems to had suddenly stopped answering my calls and calling me. Even my ex-boyfriend who is always there for me stopped answering my calls. On top of all of that, the next day I was going to Vancouver all by myself. There was no one to talk to.

What was I supposed to do? I had all these problems but no one to solve them for me. No one to give me advice. I was indeed sad, melancholy, and lonely because I am the type of person who is always relying on other people. I have to have other company. I felt as if I was being pushed by force into a swimming pool without knowing how to swim.

Finally I finally understood what those words meant :"Don't rely on others anymore." GM has been training me for the past 5 years and now it is ready for me to start relying on myself....to start relying on my own cultivation and my own wisdom. Often times when I have problems now I will cultivate and reflect on my problems and then find a solution to them using my own wisdom. Before I would wait for a response from Grandmaster and have him guide me out of the situation. Things are indeed very different now.

At this time, my friends are slowly returning back. All those people who did not answer my calls are slowly coming back into my life but things have changed. I don't rely on them anymore. I try to rely on myself.

There is however one dharma brother which was there for me at a critical time...he acted like a reminder to tell me that I indeed had to have self reliance and I am grateful for his advice.

Raychin,
I think that it just needs time and diligence. Slowly build your confidence in Grandmaster until you have complete confidence. It takes time. It is not possible to make one great leap suddenly. Things are gradual and from what I can see, you are already on that road! In time, you'll be able to rely on your own cultivated wisdom!

Om Mani Padme Hom
raychin09/06/02 at 23:44:14#7Re: Can you share some of the wisdom u have learne
hey.  thanks for the replies.  
i realized today that one has to open his/her heart in Buddhism.  I guess it was hard for me to open my heart even to the Buddhas.  i see truth in their words, but it is hard for me to put faith in anyone other than myself.  This is probably a hindrance.  i've always cast a protective shell around me throughout my life.  Trying to protect my ego, i guess.  Also, realized that the ego is my worst enemy.  i gotta get rid of it.  time to let Buddhas in.  when i had that insight during the practice, it was like "wow."  the ballpark got bigger.  still unfamiliar though.  i guess i gotta feel comfortable w/ it.  
^tAn^TyWuI^-^09/16/02 at 02:16:54#8Re: Can you share some of the wisdom u have learne
I wouldn't say that i've attained any wisdom (i see myself as quite dense sometimes) but this is my two singapore cents worth of food for thought:

when we face the 'trauma' of a lack of faith, we should step up with our practice and recite the bodhicitta mantra more, as well as visualising emptiness and recite the emptiness mantra. I realise that very soon your bodhicitta would be boundless like the universe and pure as the moon. From this arises the pure faith that we need. I begin to understand that faith isn't just relying and asking for blessing, but just believing, even if it is without proof or reason. And by this faith there is this psychic connection by which all blessings from teh buddhas and bodhisattvas come. By this time i am no different from the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, because i am one with them, and they are one in me.

Om Guru Lian sheng siddhi hum