piggy11/01/02 at 03:12:22#1Hello fellow dharma sisters and brothers!
how are you? happy halloween,..I can see the smileys turned in the
pumpkins! :) Well we don't celebrate halloween here in Holland. Anywayz
I am posting this message to become a little wiser :P
I live in a house with an old lady and an other girl ( I am a student) in my
room I have a little altar and I pratice in front of my altar everyday.
I wake up at 6:30 AM and start chanting/ meditating around 7 AM.
This is very early for a student (here in Holland) to wake up.
I have this problem that I can't disturb the women and the girl with my chanting.
So I wondered, is it bad not to chant out loud, but chant within the heart?
I hope some of you can answer my question!
THNX,..and a happy halloween,..in case you celebrate it :)
May you all be as happy as a buddha
Om mani padme hum
Vicky
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lian hua dance11/01/02 at 04:52:41#2Re: Chanting :)
http://www.tbsn.org/english2/talk.php?id=36&classid=1
vi. There are five ways to chant the Mantra
a. Lotus chanting - the voice uttered is as soft as the passing breeze.
b. Vajra chanting - the mouth is closed, no voice is uttered, although the tongue is moving.
c. Samadhi chanting- first observe your heart, and visualise a moon disc within the heart region with mantra written on it. Without uttering a word, use your mind to urge the mantra word by word. In other words your mind thinks of the sound of the mantra.
d. Conch-induced chanting- First visualise a lotus flower in your heart, then think of the mouth of a white conch, uttering the melodious mantra.
e. Brightness chanting - visualise your mouth, emitting countless rays of bright lights, with the mantra words flowing out one after another.
vii. You may chant it loudly, so that there is concentration, but it may be harmful to your qi(air). Without uttering, it may be too stuffy. That is why, it is advocated that while chanting, the first few sentences should be uttered. Then lower the voice, and finally chanting without any voice. This is a good way. Most importantly, it should suit your individual physiology and the chanting should be comfortable.
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alenachan11/06/02 at 21:58:54#3Re: Chantinghi Brenda, I had post a question regarding chanting mantras. I ask if it would be ok if I walk around chanting GM's mantra without facing the altars? And when I do chant, it's only brief because I chant at work as well. My coworkers sometimes come into my office for meeting so I stop after several 100x,,,,is it appropriate to start back chanting again? thanks
Buddhafly11/07/02 at 16:33:35#4Re: Chanting
I didn't see that posting.
Alan.
At work it's a little different There are different ways to chant that one could use when others are around which I would say would be more appropriate.
If anyone else has any ideas please feel free to comment.
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mimosa11/07/02 at 20:19:43#5Re: Chanting#mantras. I ask if it would be ok if I walk around chanting #GM's mantra without facing the altars?
There are two types of chanting: one is chanting in the shrine; another one is chanting whenever and wherever. Certainly, chanting in shrine is better because you are fully concentrating and visualizing. However, it is hard to find the quiet time in our life to do that. You can chant whenever and wherever, it may not be as effective but it will still increase some merits.
meeting so I stop after several 100x,,,,is it appropriate to start back chanting again? thanks
#that is okay. Just continue to chant. I do that all the time.
speak of which, I just lost my counter...so annoying..I lost so many of them :-(
Mimosa
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jessie11/07/02 at 21:12:05#6Re: Chantingmaybe when u r chanting at work, you can visualise a virtual shrine facing you?
my reasoning: Cos' if you are chanting Avalokitesvara's mantra, you might as well visualise the Boddhisattva emitting light on you to bless you...
Also, helps in training your visualisation too! :)
my humble opinion.
alenachan11/07/02 at 21:31:15#7Re: Chantingyes, I do visualize GM and other buddhas/boddhisattvas in the air before I start chanting. I also visualize I am sitting in a lotus facing the open space to the budhhas, then I let the image go and start to chant. So it's not as effective as chanting in temple/altar?
johnlaw211/07/02 at 22:13:18#8Re: Chanting<< yes, I do visualize GM and other buddhas/boddhisattvas in the air before I start chanting. I also visualize I am sitting in a lotus facing the open space to the budhhas, then I let the image go and start to chant. So it's not as effective as chanting in temple/altar? >>
Lately, I have a problem with visualization. When visualizing the Buddhas and Boddhisattvas, are we suppose to visualize they're smiling at us or not or what. Now in the temple, I can't control myself and lately funny thoughts coming into my mind.
Then afterwards, I ask for forgiveness because I couldn't control my crazy thoughts -- that is what happens when G.M. gone and no true leader to run the temple properly.
Om Guru Lian-Sheng Siddhi Hum
Come Back to the temple Grand Master! :'(
John
cc for all these years when G.M. was around, I wasn't. Lately I became seriously involved in my practice, G.M.'s gone. What a heartache for me.
mimosa11/09/02 at 22:31:35#9Re: Chanting#lotus facing the open space to the budhhas, then I let the #image go and start to chant. So it's not as effective as #chanting in temple/altar?
When you chant the mantra in altar, you concentrate more on recitation than you chant while walking or doing other activities right? That is why it is not as effective. However, it is better than no recite or dwell on the negative thoughts right?
Mimosa
johnlaw211/10/02 at 07:36:47#10Re: ChantingChanting without concentration is not mindfulness. Truly chanting in the present moment is to develope such profound concentration connecting one with the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas.
Chanting and laughing humorously -- save the soul, for life is not one of seriousness. Nothing in life should be that of urgent.
Even death is of last resort and death too is not urgent. Ah, John, stupid, live life lightly and enjoy on this journey.
Peace to all,
May everyone have a wonderful week! :)
Om Mani Padme Hum
John