may11/04/02 at 20:14:28#1This is one standard which we haven't set yet.
How do we address the monks and nuns of TBS?
Do we call them Reverend or Lama?
I noticed in the PLS website, they are addressed as Lama Lian......
May.
lian hua dance11/04/02 at 21:14:31#2Re: Reverend or Lama
I know someone must have decided that they are not to be called monks and monkesses, but I am not sure why -
(just kidding about the monkesses part)
For me, "Reverend" sounds very Christian and "Lama" sounds very Tibetan.
But I am learning to call everone a reverend.
lian hua dance
Luljeta11/04/02 at 21:39:48#3Re: Reverend or LamaSame here Dance.
From the beginning I've always addressed monks & nuns in our school as 'Reverend,' Mostly because they tell me to call them Reverend.
If we use Lama, I think some readers won't be able to tell the difference between Reverend and Master.
Lu
may11/05/02 at 00:45:35#4Re: Reverend or LamaPersonally, I prefer "Lama" rather than "Reverend".
This is because "Lama" is very Tibetan whereas "Reverend" is very Christian.
TBS is very close to Tibetan Buddhism so it seems "Lama" is more appropriate.
To me, "Reverend" doesn't sound quite right in the Buddhism context.
Does anyone know if TBF has set any standard on this one?
Maybe we should move this discussion to "Public" rather than "Internal".
mimosa11/05/02 at 11:59:17#5Re: Reverend or Lama#To me, "Reverend" doesn't sound quite right in the Buddhism context.
Does anyone know if TBF has set any standard on this one?
#no, I dont think so. I use Reverend becuase Janny uses Reverend in her books and when she does the simulatenous translation she uses Reverend. to me, lama is easier to say
Maybe we should move this discussion to "Public" rather than "Internal".
#done
Luljeta11/05/02 at 19:45:20#6Re: Reverend or LamaI am also used to seeing Reverend in most TBS English translated books/articles.
I think it's also a matter of location. Throughout the US, every monk or nun I've encountered is addressed as Reverend. They've never told me to call them 'Lama xxxxx,' it's always 'Reverend xxxxx.'
If I'm not wrong, use of the word Lama doesn't make a distinction between status, i.e. between Master and Reverend.
Furthermore, my friend practices in Gelugpa. They simply call a Reverend 'monk' or 'nun' if they do not call them by their Dharma name.
Lu
darrellmc11/05/02 at 21:17:54#7Re: Reverend or LamaA one 'l' lama is a priest
A two "l" llama is a beast
Be glad there aren't any three 'l' lllamas, at least
I too have never heard lama used in TBS. It seems to be used in Tibetan sects as both a title and description,i.e. "Lama Suchand such is a lama." but we use both Rev. and monk or "monkess" :) er, nun. i.e. Rev. Suchandsuch is a monk.
I know that has Christian connotations all around, but Buddhist monk and Buddhist nun are phrases I see over and over, particulary in the Theravada. They are Rev. and monk or nun down there. Don't know about Zen....I think the only separations there might be master and student.
swallow11/06/02 at 21:47:27#8Re: Reverend or LamaThe term " Reverend " has been used in all the translations
so far.
A bit late to change it to " lama ".
The word " lama " let people think of the Tibetan Monks
straightaway.
Not very suitable for TBS monks and nuns.