Team
I dont wish to be an instigator, aggrevating the team.
For the future discussion, let's carry it on the forum.
If TBN decides to post our articles, she will flame team and me again.
It will never stop until the day I die.... or I hit by the car I dont know, whichever comes first
She wont stop........she is determined to destory me.
To her, I am a thief, I stole the team from her.
I have to find a way to stop her..otherwise it is not the end of it, it is the beginning of it....
Thanks Invincible_East's post.... really apprecaite.
Mimosa
-----Original Message-----
From: 東方 不敗 [mailto:invincible_east@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:48 PM
To: Lula77@aol.com; mimosa@bestpals.org; team@padmakumara.org
Subject: Re: My term has come to an end
Dear Team:
Many Buddhists mistake keeping a low profile when dealing with evil is in accordance with Buddha's teachings.
Well, let me tell you all....
Buddha has killed a bigrand once in his life.
Here's the story. One day Buddha passed by a village. He saw a bigrand murdering, torturing, and raping the villagers. Without hesitation, Buddha killed the bigrand.
Buddha preached the precepts of "no killing", but why did he do it? The answer given by a buddhist book is, "If you kill a bigrand, only the bigrand's family will weep. However, if you let go of the bigrand, the whole village will weep." It's clear that it's true that we should not kill, but it's also true that we use wisdom to kill in order to save a lot of lives.
Here's another story. Once upon a time, Padmasambhava happened to passed by a town. The residents in this town were only villians who did nothing good except committing great sin, i.e., engage in adultery, killing, cheating, lying, and so on. After observed what awful deeds the people in this town did, Padmasambhava enter into the state of deep meditation. He realized that these people owed him their lives. Like Buddha, Padmasambhava killed all the residents by cultivating a subjugation sadhana. After He killed them, He delivered their bardos to divakayas and purlands.
I can also tell you this. In one of Grand Master's books, Grand Master killed an evil villian's spirit forty times in order to liberate him from hell.
Don't ask me the full story, I must keep it secret so that it will come out "fresh" once the story is translated. :-)
Anyway, I want to point out to you all is that it is okay to stand up for someone morally and in accordance with Grand Master and Buddha's teachings. Remember by doing so, we are saving the innocents from the evils.
Here's my "vajra eye" for yee who is evil. #~~~~@ (Immitating Acala)
Love you all. :-)
Regards,
Invincible East
>From: Lula77@aol.com
>To: mimosa@bestpals.org, team@padmakumara.org
>Subject: Re: My term has come to an end
>Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:26:33 EST
>
>Hi Mimosa and Aisura and Team,
>
>This issue has also made me very sick to my stomach. I will stand witness to
>Mimosa's words should it be necessary. By doing this, I am also taking a big
>risk--being hammered by Arica.
>
>If anybody knows what really happened, I am one of those people. Because I
>know what really happened all along, I will stand up for the truth and for
>what is correct.
>
>Yes, Arica was the one who took the initiative to form the team. But, she is
>not the creator of the team, and she certainly is not or was not the team
>itself. Everyone who helped out from beginning to end is the team. This is
>something she cannot accept or understand.
>
>I have held my tongue for far too long, and have been depicted as Arica's
>supporter, best friend, biggest fan, what have you--but this is only what she
>makes it out to be by twisting words.
>
>When I first met her from the TBSN e-board days, I became her friend and was
>influenced by her, until one day I woke up and realized that what she does to
>others is very wrong. She used to ask me to defend her and stand up for her
>whenever she started a fight with anybody on e-board. I was ashamed of
>myself that I did just that--help her degrade other people. She has said
>some really, really horrible things to other people that have made me just as
>sick as what she is doing now. Many people stopped contributing to the board
>because of her behavior.
>
>Unfortunately I could not 'get away' from her because I really was afraid of
>her. Once when I asked her to stop being so harsh to a certain person, she
>practically *murdered* me. So, I did what I had to do and kept a low profile
>as much as I could. There are about 3 people on this team who know all about
>what I went through with her...including having to *baby-talk* her so she
>would cut out her behavior and treatment of other people, though it only
>worked temporarily.
>
>For all of what I have said here, I trust everyone on the team to keep it in
>confidence. I am only letting out what I have held in for so long to prove a
>point--that I of all people am taking the biggest risk by standing witness to
>Mimosa's words.
>
>For the current issues, she never had any permission to use any of my emails
>for public purposes...I never asked her for permission to continue editing
>after she quit (which is what she is claiming)...etc. etc. As a matter of
>fact, about 2 months ago she sent me a nasty email complaining that I edit so
>many articles for padmakumara, but how come i can't edit hers! The story
>behind that is, after she quit padmakumara, I agreed to help edit some of her
>work as long it can be used by padmakumara--but on the condition that
>translations submitted by padmakumara translators are priority. I did this
>to keep peace with her so she would stop harrassing me and a few others, but
>after all, how can anyone keep peace with her? The situation keeps getting
>worse every time.
>
>Ignoring her and letting it go does not seem to work for long. Something
>needs to be done about this because threatening with black magic, exposing
>private things about people, and twisting people's words is going way too
>far. I have had enough of it. I have had enough of 3 years of seeing what
>she does to others.
>
>I am hoping that should witnesses be needed, it will help Arica to stop what
>she is doing. If it helps her to even consider what she is doing, or even
>helps her have the idea come into her head that it is wrong, then it is worth
>it. I will let her murder me 1,000 times over.
>
>By this, I stand as a witness to the truth of Mimosa's words.
>
>With Metta to Everyone,
>
>Lu
>
>In a message dated 12/5/2002 1:48:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>aysura_dao@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> > My god, those were some sick and harsh posts. *sighs*
> >
> > I do not know either one of you well nor I am familar with the history of
> > our site, however...
> >
> > What I saw in those two posts was absolutly disgusting. There was no
> > dicipline, heartless not to mention, no trace of a manner which a basic
> > Buddhist would process.
> >
> > Each posts have follow-ups of more than 2 pages, considered the time those
> > folks spent on the forum as a platform to burst out their hatred: I
> > question
> > the personality of this Arica. (regardless of who's fault it is or if there
> > was any fault to begin with) Since her words were full of hatred I doubt in
> > her heart there was any room left for forgiveness (for any matter) not to
> > mention the chances of her actually understand what it means to have
> > compassion in her life.
> >
> > A reminder that being a Dharma student does not grant one the privilege to
> > use supernatuaral force to ulter fate needless to say the practice of black
> > magic is forbidden. The posts I've read was perhaps written under anger yet
> > if that person was truely a student at heart, he wouldn't even be posting
> > any threads and follow-up the posts to an arguement.
> >
> > And quite clearly, if anyone at all had read TBS dicipline and Dharma laws,
> > starting or attenting an arguement versus one another Dharma brother and
> > sister is forbidden. Alas....
> >
> > I guess its only natural for human beings would make it alright to bend
> > rules for themselve when the rules itself restrain them to "express"
> > themselves...
> >
> > Quite frankly I am sick to the stomach when I read this. There wasn't room
> > for me to feel anger to such harsh words to another person, only grief and
> > distress knowing where they actions are taking them...
> >
> > Really, you don't really need to be a buddhist student to act civilize and
> > being a Dharma student process even greater responsibility...
> >
> > Then again, not everyone cares about getting out of incarnation anymore...
> > mortals only feel "alive" when they are suffering, or making others suffer.
> > Guess, that is the condition of our "mortal games"...the condition that
> > continue to summon our return to watch these sufferings grow into endless
> > labyrinths.
> >
> > I don't know how to post in chinese, but if any wish to forward this to
> > that
> > forum, by all means. Those people really ought to re-evaluate their
> > attitudes.
> >
> > p.s. Don't sweat it Mimosa if you know you haven't done anything, not even
> > the legendary buddhas and masters themselves could stop those public
> > flames.
> > We could only stay true to ourselves ;)
> >
> > Aisura
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mimosa"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:39 PM
> > Subject: My term has come to an end
> >
> >
> > > Team
> > >
> > > My 6-months term is coming to the end. This month is my last month.
> > > We should start the election around 12/15/02 to give us enough time to
> > > hand the job over to the new lead. If nobody is willing to step up to be
> > > the lead, we, as a team, need to notify TBF to take the team over. At
> > > any rate, on 12/31/02, I will withdraw all my responsibilities from
> > > the team and leave the team. I will still financially sponsor the
> > > website, so you have a place to play and stay. We still need a volunteer
> > > to monitor the site otherwise I will have to shut down the site. We can
> > > not leave the site unmanaged.
> > >
> > >
> > > It has been a great pleasure to work with everyone. I often think that
> > > being the lead is Buddha's trick :-) I didnt want to be a lead, but
> > > Arica Lim left the team so I had to take over the team. I joined the
> > > team when she called people for help. I served as a senior member during
> > > the time she was absent. Then, I was officially elected as a lead and
> > > carried the task until today. It really has been a great pleasure to
> > > work with you all. I am very honored and pleased. I will never forget
> > > the precious time we have.............................
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for giving me a precious chance to work with you all. It
> > > is a privilege to work with all you.
> > >
> > > Since I am not running for the next term, please send your nominiation
> > > to me. I will start the voting on 12/15/02.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a last wish......After Arica left the team, she never stopped
> > > slandering me. Sometimes in the public, sometimes she emailed to some of
> > > you. I knew all that. I never stopped any of you from contacting her. I
> > > respect everyone as an adult and I also wish her well. I can pretend to
> > > be blind for the private insulting, but how do I react to public slander
> > > http://www.tbsn.idv.tw/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2592. Her first slander
> > > really got me down. I really dont know how I lived through the suffering
> > >
> > > days. Thanks for your support and encouragement. However, this woman
> > > wont stop , she continues to attack me
> > > http://www.tbsn.idv.tw/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2734. She even said that I
> > > sold the team to TBF in exchange of high status. Some people even wanted
> > >
> > > to practice black magic to get rid of me now....**wry smile*
> > >
> > > Whenever my friends want to speak for me, I refrain my friend from
> > > joining the dispute.
> > > However, I wonder to myself, "Should I clarify the history of
> > > Padmakumara Translation Team?". It is OUR team, not mine or hers!. The
> > > better we are doing; the more jealous she got. To her, I stole the team
> > > from her. I am not a thief. You may say, "Mimosa, just forget about
> > > it". Well, if someone keeps slandering you in the public and even
> > > aggravated others to
> > > do black magic on you, how would you feel?" She also mentioned about my
> > > relationship with someone. My family doesnt even know about this yet. If
> > > anyone tells my family member, I dont know what to do............... She
> > > posted on the website that she introduced me a boyfriend. Well, I knew
> > > my boyfriend 7 years ago. We just lost in touch. My boyfriend learned
> > > that I am still single from her. That is all. Anyway, a personal love
> > > relationship is personal....She revealed it in the public, she really
> > > has gone too far.... Now, you all know that I have a boyfriend who I
> > > love very deeply :-) However, for the time being, I can not tell my
> > > family. It may cause serious family dispute. She is determined to
> > > destroy me.
> > >
> > > Someone in the team convinced me to speak up and clarify the issue.
> > > Since I can not write Chinese too well, he is helping me. I want to ask
> > >
> > > one-and-only favor.... You dont have to reply if you are not up for
> > > it. Our team is organized by group of people, not by her alone. I need
> > > some witness. All I need is your permission to put someone will vouch
> > > for me. I wont put your name in the letter until I get your permission.
> > > The letter will only state the fact, no insulting. I will challenge her
> > > to bring her witness instead of copying and pasting people's email and
> > > twisting the fact. However, if she is up to the challenge, you will have
> > > to come forward and face her.
> > > I will challenge her to call upon her witness as well.
> > >
> > > . Arica did call up the team, but all of us helped out to form the team.
> > >
> > > can someone vouch for that? anyone remember how we put the team
> > > together?
> > > she kept saying that she is the founder of the team, and I am claiming
> > > the hall of fame from her..(have any of you heard me calling myself the
> > > founder of the team?)
> > > . Cheng's case. Arica and Cheng holds strong grudge against each other.
> > > Luljeta and I put our personal feelings aside and decided to help him.
> > > After that, Arica sent out one week of nasty email to the team. She
> > > said,
> > > "Mimosa, even someone spit on your face, you dont care. You just want
> > > your name on the books" That was a nasty one week. She claimed that my
> > > decision screwed up the team. We then both left the team. Brenda asked
> > > the team and invited me to come back. was invited back by the team. I
> > > didnt steal anything from anybody.
> > > . she contacted some of you and said very negative words about the team.
> > > That was why her first post was deleted. She is backstabbing the team
> > > and want to recurit people on padma website at the same time?
> > > . She has done a smiliar trick on TBSN and hurt people. Can someone
> > > vouch for that?
> > >
> > > Other accusation, I can clarify easily. How can I sell the team to TBF.
> > >
> > > Our team urges me to write to TBF. We need to comply with the copyright
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > I am not doing this for myself. I am doing this to protect the team as
> > > well.
> > > Our name has been ruined and abused by her. Your emails have been posted
> > > on the net to show your support for her. I am merely a thief and
> > > stealing the team from her. **sigh**
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess that is the team lead's last wish :-) Again, you dont have to
> > > stand up and speak for me. I understand that people may want to keep low
> > > profile and enjoy tranquility. Me too...... :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening!
> > >
> > > Mimosa
> > >
> >
I dont wish to be an instigator, aggrevating the team.
For the future discussion, let's carry it on the forum.
If TBN decides to post our articles, she will flame team and me again.
It will never stop until the day I die.... or I hit by the car I dont know, whichever comes first
She wont stop........she is determined to destory me.
To her, I am a thief, I stole the team from her.
I have to find a way to stop her..otherwise it is not the end of it, it is the beginning of it....
Thanks Invincible_East's post.... really apprecaite.
Mimosa
-----Original Message-----
From: 東方 不敗 [mailto:invincible_east@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:48 PM
To: Lula77@aol.com; mimosa@bestpals.org; team@padmakumara.org
Subject: Re: My term has come to an end
Dear Team:
Many Buddhists mistake keeping a low profile when dealing with evil is in accordance with Buddha's teachings.
Well, let me tell you all....
Buddha has killed a bigrand once in his life.
Here's the story. One day Buddha passed by a village. He saw a bigrand murdering, torturing, and raping the villagers. Without hesitation, Buddha killed the bigrand.
Buddha preached the precepts of "no killing", but why did he do it? The answer given by a buddhist book is, "If you kill a bigrand, only the bigrand's family will weep. However, if you let go of the bigrand, the whole village will weep." It's clear that it's true that we should not kill, but it's also true that we use wisdom to kill in order to save a lot of lives.
Here's another story. Once upon a time, Padmasambhava happened to passed by a town. The residents in this town were only villians who did nothing good except committing great sin, i.e., engage in adultery, killing, cheating, lying, and so on. After observed what awful deeds the people in this town did, Padmasambhava enter into the state of deep meditation. He realized that these people owed him their lives. Like Buddha, Padmasambhava killed all the residents by cultivating a subjugation sadhana. After He killed them, He delivered their bardos to divakayas and purlands.
I can also tell you this. In one of Grand Master's books, Grand Master killed an evil villian's spirit forty times in order to liberate him from hell.
Don't ask me the full story, I must keep it secret so that it will come out "fresh" once the story is translated. :-)
Anyway, I want to point out to you all is that it is okay to stand up for someone morally and in accordance with Grand Master and Buddha's teachings. Remember by doing so, we are saving the innocents from the evils.
Here's my "vajra eye" for yee who is evil. #~~~~@ (Immitating Acala)
Love you all. :-)
Regards,
Invincible East
>From: Lula77@aol.com
>To: mimosa@bestpals.org, team@padmakumara.org
>Subject: Re: My term has come to an end
>Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:26:33 EST
>
>Hi Mimosa and Aisura and Team,
>
>This issue has also made me very sick to my stomach. I will stand witness to
>Mimosa's words should it be necessary. By doing this, I am also taking a big
>risk--being hammered by Arica.
>
>If anybody knows what really happened, I am one of those people. Because I
>know what really happened all along, I will stand up for the truth and for
>what is correct.
>
>Yes, Arica was the one who took the initiative to form the team. But, she is
>not the creator of the team, and she certainly is not or was not the team
>itself. Everyone who helped out from beginning to end is the team. This is
>something she cannot accept or understand.
>
>I have held my tongue for far too long, and have been depicted as Arica's
>supporter, best friend, biggest fan, what have you--but this is only what she
>makes it out to be by twisting words.
>
>When I first met her from the TBSN e-board days, I became her friend and was
>influenced by her, until one day I woke up and realized that what she does to
>others is very wrong. She used to ask me to defend her and stand up for her
>whenever she started a fight with anybody on e-board. I was ashamed of
>myself that I did just that--help her degrade other people. She has said
>some really, really horrible things to other people that have made me just as
>sick as what she is doing now. Many people stopped contributing to the board
>because of her behavior.
>
>Unfortunately I could not 'get away' from her because I really was afraid of
>her. Once when I asked her to stop being so harsh to a certain person, she
>practically *murdered* me. So, I did what I had to do and kept a low profile
>as much as I could. There are about 3 people on this team who know all about
>what I went through with her...including having to *baby-talk* her so she
>would cut out her behavior and treatment of other people, though it only
>worked temporarily.
>
>For all of what I have said here, I trust everyone on the team to keep it in
>confidence. I am only letting out what I have held in for so long to prove a
>point--that I of all people am taking the biggest risk by standing witness to
>Mimosa's words.
>
>For the current issues, she never had any permission to use any of my emails
>for public purposes...I never asked her for permission to continue editing
>after she quit (which is what she is claiming)...etc. etc. As a matter of
>fact, about 2 months ago she sent me a nasty email complaining that I edit so
>many articles for padmakumara, but how come i can't edit hers! The story
>behind that is, after she quit padmakumara, I agreed to help edit some of her
>work as long it can be used by padmakumara--but on the condition that
>translations submitted by padmakumara translators are priority. I did this
>to keep peace with her so she would stop harrassing me and a few others, but
>after all, how can anyone keep peace with her? The situation keeps getting
>worse every time.
>
>Ignoring her and letting it go does not seem to work for long. Something
>needs to be done about this because threatening with black magic, exposing
>private things about people, and twisting people's words is going way too
>far. I have had enough of it. I have had enough of 3 years of seeing what
>she does to others.
>
>I am hoping that should witnesses be needed, it will help Arica to stop what
>she is doing. If it helps her to even consider what she is doing, or even
>helps her have the idea come into her head that it is wrong, then it is worth
>it. I will let her murder me 1,000 times over.
>
>By this, I stand as a witness to the truth of Mimosa's words.
>
>With Metta to Everyone,
>
>Lu
>
>In a message dated 12/5/2002 1:48:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>aysura_dao@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> > My god, those were some sick and harsh posts. *sighs*
> >
> > I do not know either one of you well nor I am familar with the history of
> > our site, however...
> >
> > What I saw in those two posts was absolutly disgusting. There was no
> > dicipline, heartless not to mention, no trace of a manner which a basic
> > Buddhist would process.
> >
> > Each posts have follow-ups of more than 2 pages, considered the time those
> > folks spent on the forum as a platform to burst out their hatred: I
> > question
> > the personality of this Arica. (regardless of who's fault it is or if there
> > was any fault to begin with) Since her words were full of hatred I doubt in
> > her heart there was any room left for forgiveness (for any matter) not to
> > mention the chances of her actually understand what it means to have
> > compassion in her life.
> >
> > A reminder that being a Dharma student does not grant one the privilege to
> > use supernatuaral force to ulter fate needless to say the practice of black
> > magic is forbidden. The posts I've read was perhaps written under anger yet
> > if that person was truely a student at heart, he wouldn't even be posting
> > any threads and follow-up the posts to an arguement.
> >
> > And quite clearly, if anyone at all had read TBS dicipline and Dharma laws,
> > starting or attenting an arguement versus one another Dharma brother and
> > sister is forbidden. Alas....
> >
> > I guess its only natural for human beings would make it alright to bend
> > rules for themselve when the rules itself restrain them to "express"
> > themselves...
> >
> > Quite frankly I am sick to the stomach when I read this. There wasn't room
> > for me to feel anger to such harsh words to another person, only grief and
> > distress knowing where they actions are taking them...
> >
> > Really, you don't really need to be a buddhist student to act civilize and
> > being a Dharma student process even greater responsibility...
> >
> > Then again, not everyone cares about getting out of incarnation anymore...
> > mortals only feel "alive" when they are suffering, or making others suffer.
> > Guess, that is the condition of our "mortal games"...the condition that
> > continue to summon our return to watch these sufferings grow into endless
> > labyrinths.
> >
> > I don't know how to post in chinese, but if any wish to forward this to
> > that
> > forum, by all means. Those people really ought to re-evaluate their
> > attitudes.
> >
> > p.s. Don't sweat it Mimosa if you know you haven't done anything, not even
> > the legendary buddhas and masters themselves could stop those public
> > flames.
> > We could only stay true to ourselves ;)
> >
> > Aisura
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mimosa"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:39 PM
> > Subject: My term has come to an end
> >
> >
> > > Team
> > >
> > > My 6-months term is coming to the end. This month is my last month.
> > > We should start the election around 12/15/02 to give us enough time to
> > > hand the job over to the new lead. If nobody is willing to step up to be
> > > the lead, we, as a team, need to notify TBF to take the team over. At
> > > any rate, on 12/31/02, I will withdraw all my responsibilities from
> > > the team and leave the team. I will still financially sponsor the
> > > website, so you have a place to play and stay. We still need a volunteer
> > > to monitor the site otherwise I will have to shut down the site. We can
> > > not leave the site unmanaged.
> > >
> > >
> > > It has been a great pleasure to work with everyone. I often think that
> > > being the lead is Buddha's trick :-) I didnt want to be a lead, but
> > > Arica Lim left the team so I had to take over the team. I joined the
> > > team when she called people for help. I served as a senior member during
> > > the time she was absent. Then, I was officially elected as a lead and
> > > carried the task until today. It really has been a great pleasure to
> > > work with you all. I am very honored and pleased. I will never forget
> > > the precious time we have.............................
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone for giving me a precious chance to work with you all. It
> > > is a privilege to work with all you.
> > >
> > > Since I am not running for the next term, please send your nominiation
> > > to me. I will start the voting on 12/15/02.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a last wish......After Arica left the team, she never stopped
> > > slandering me. Sometimes in the public, sometimes she emailed to some of
> > > you. I knew all that. I never stopped any of you from contacting her. I
> > > respect everyone as an adult and I also wish her well. I can pretend to
> > > be blind for the private insulting, but how do I react to public slander
> > > http://www.tbsn.idv.tw/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2592. Her first slander
> > > really got me down. I really dont know how I lived through the suffering
> > >
> > > days. Thanks for your support and encouragement. However, this woman
> > > wont stop , she continues to attack me
> > > http://www.tbsn.idv.tw/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2734. She even said that I
> > > sold the team to TBF in exchange of high status. Some people even wanted
> > >
> > > to practice black magic to get rid of me now....**wry smile*
> > >
> > > Whenever my friends want to speak for me, I refrain my friend from
> > > joining the dispute.
> > > However, I wonder to myself, "Should I clarify the history of
> > > Padmakumara Translation Team?". It is OUR team, not mine or hers!. The
> > > better we are doing; the more jealous she got. To her, I stole the team
> > > from her. I am not a thief. You may say, "Mimosa, just forget about
> > > it". Well, if someone keeps slandering you in the public and even
> > > aggravated others to
> > > do black magic on you, how would you feel?" She also mentioned about my
> > > relationship with someone. My family doesnt even know about this yet. If
> > > anyone tells my family member, I dont know what to do............... She
> > > posted on the website that she introduced me a boyfriend. Well, I knew
> > > my boyfriend 7 years ago. We just lost in touch. My boyfriend learned
> > > that I am still single from her. That is all. Anyway, a personal love
> > > relationship is personal....She revealed it in the public, she really
> > > has gone too far.... Now, you all know that I have a boyfriend who I
> > > love very deeply :-) However, for the time being, I can not tell my
> > > family. It may cause serious family dispute. She is determined to
> > > destroy me.
> > >
> > > Someone in the team convinced me to speak up and clarify the issue.
> > > Since I can not write Chinese too well, he is helping me. I want to ask
> > >
> > > one-and-only favor.... You dont have to reply if you are not up for
> > > it. Our team is organized by group of people, not by her alone. I need
> > > some witness. All I need is your permission to put someone will vouch
> > > for me. I wont put your name in the letter until I get your permission.
> > > The letter will only state the fact, no insulting. I will challenge her
> > > to bring her witness instead of copying and pasting people's email and
> > > twisting the fact. However, if she is up to the challenge, you will have
> > > to come forward and face her.
> > > I will challenge her to call upon her witness as well.
> > >
> > > . Arica did call up the team, but all of us helped out to form the team.
> > >
> > > can someone vouch for that? anyone remember how we put the team
> > > together?
> > > she kept saying that she is the founder of the team, and I am claiming
> > > the hall of fame from her..(have any of you heard me calling myself the
> > > founder of the team?)
> > > . Cheng's case. Arica and Cheng holds strong grudge against each other.
> > > Luljeta and I put our personal feelings aside and decided to help him.
> > > After that, Arica sent out one week of nasty email to the team. She
> > > said,
> > > "Mimosa, even someone spit on your face, you dont care. You just want
> > > your name on the books" That was a nasty one week. She claimed that my
> > > decision screwed up the team. We then both left the team. Brenda asked
> > > the team and invited me to come back. was invited back by the team. I
> > > didnt steal anything from anybody.
> > > . she contacted some of you and said very negative words about the team.
> > > That was why her first post was deleted. She is backstabbing the team
> > > and want to recurit people on padma website at the same time?
> > > . She has done a smiliar trick on TBSN and hurt people. Can someone
> > > vouch for that?
> > >
> > > Other accusation, I can clarify easily. How can I sell the team to TBF.
> > >
> > > Our team urges me to write to TBF. We need to comply with the copyright
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > I am not doing this for myself. I am doing this to protect the team as
> > > well.
> > > Our name has been ruined and abused by her. Your emails have been posted
> > > on the net to show your support for her. I am merely a thief and
> > > stealing the team from her. **sigh**
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess that is the team lead's last wish :-) Again, you dont have to
> > > stand up and speak for me. I understand that people may want to keep low
> > > profile and enjoy tranquility. Me too...... :-)
> > >
> > > Thanks for listening!
> > >
> > > Mimosa
> > >
> >